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Income inequality fueling Tesla attacks

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It's not just many losing their jobs from DOGE but when tesla owner are getting under attacked as well it maybe a symptom of a much bigger problem.

Income inequality is massive in the USA. Common symptoms of this systemic problem is higher stress levels or unease, insecurity among its population, poverty, homelessness, resentment and distrust of the rich and the rich acting with indifference and excessive entitlement with the much greater wealth/power given to them by the massive wealth inequality.

We don't see these levels of unrest in nations where wealth is more equally distributed and "authority gradients" are less steep. Nations like Canada and some nations in EU where wealth distribution is at healthy levels. Such system creates trust and friendly relations or cooperation between rich and the lowest working classes.

I don't think people are simply seeing Tesla owners as supporters of Musk but also people who are rich or on their way to becoming rich.

And because in a country with massive income inequality exists strong resentment towards the rich then it's not hard to see these circumstances are helping to fuel the attacks.

If the unrest escalates further, we might start seeing wealthy people who may not own a Tesla vehicle become targets of attacks as well.

The only solution is find a way to have more equal distribution of wealth like in some EU nations. It will also help mitigate authority gradients and that is efficient.
 

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It's not just many losing their jobs from DOGE but when tesla owner are getting under attacked as well it maybe a symptom of a much bigger problem.

Income inequality is massive in the USA. Common symptoms of this systemic problem is higher stress levels or unease, insecurity among its population, poverty, homelessness, resentment and distrust of the rich and the rich acting with indifference and excessive entitlement with the much greater wealth/power given to them by the massive wealth inequality.

We don't see these levels of unrest in nations where wealth is more equally distributed and "authority gradients" are less steep. Nations like Canada and some nations in EU where wealth distribution is at healthy levels. Such system creates trust and friendly relations or cooperation between rich and the lowest working classes.

I don't think people are simply seeing Tesla owners as supporters of Musk but also people who are rich or on their way to becoming rich.

And because in a country with massive income inequality exists strong resentment towards the rich then it's not hard to see these circumstances are helping to fuel the attacks.

If the unrest escalates further, we might start seeing wealthy people who may not own a Tesla vehicle become targets of attacks as well.

The only solution is find a way to have more equal distribution of wealth like in some EU nations. It will also help mitigate authority gradients and that is efficient.

Read and educate yourself before believing the OP

Tesla's - America's best selling EV - Starts at 34,000.00

If it was truly a result of the well worn socialist style propaganda "income inequality" - why aren't Corvettes being torched - they re three times more expensive? Or how about Lexus, or Infiniti, or Porsche?

Common sense people -
 
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It's not just many losing their jobs from DOGE but when tesla owner are getting under attacked as well it maybe a symptom of a much bigger problem.

Income inequality is massive in the USA. Common symptoms of this systemic problem is higher stress levels or unease, insecurity among its population, poverty, homelessness, resentment and distrust of the rich and the rich acting with indifference and excessive entitlement with the much greater wealth/power given to them by the massive wealth inequality.

We don't see these levels of unrest in nations where wealth is more equally distributed and "authority gradients" are less steep. Nations like Canada and some nations in EU where wealth distribution is at healthy levels. Such system creates trust and friendly relations or cooperation between rich and the lowest working classes.

I don't think people are simply seeing Tesla owners as supporters of Musk but also people who are rich or on their way to becoming rich.

And because in a country with massive income inequality exists strong resentment towards the rich then it's not hard to see these circumstances are helping to fuel the attacks.

If the unrest escalates further, we might start seeing wealthy people who may not own a Tesla vehicle become targets of attacks as well.

The only solution is find a way to have more equal distribution of wealth like in some EU nations. It will also help mitigate authority gradients and that is efficient.

Most Tesla owners in the US are Democrats. While liberals used to favor Tesla, their support has waned since 2022 due to Musk's political stance.

I support Democrats and liberals who choose not to buy Tesla, sell their Tesla stocks, or peacefully protest in front of Tesla stores.

However, it is unacceptable in America to attack someone for owning a Tesla or to vandalize a Tesla vehicle.
 
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Nope, it's hate for Republicans.

I can't agree that it is "hate for Republicans," since we have seen so much Tesla vandalism outside the US. If you change that to disliking the politics of Elon Musk, that I could accept -- particularly as it relates to people's belief that Musk supports some aspects of White Supremacy and authoritarian government. This had lead to groups in other countries wanting to stop "Swastikars," how they go from 0 to 1939, and even how a feature of the cars is "White Power Steering." Unless, perhaps, you are trying to claim White Supremacy is a Republican attribute?

It is also worth noting that in other areas of the world, Tesla sales started dropping a year ago, well before Elon tied himself to Trump and the Republican Party -- in many EU countries sales were down close to 50% last year.
 
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The only solution is find a way to have more equal distribution of wealth like in some EU nations. It will also help mitigate authority gradients and that is efficient.
Or maybe, take John the baptist's advice...
Luke 3:14
Just saying.
 
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and even how a feature of the cars is "White Power Steering."
lol, I hadn't heard that one.

My current favorite is the nickname "incEl Camino".
 
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Income inequality is massive in the USA. Common symptoms of this systemic problem is higher stress levels or unease, insecurity among its population, poverty, homelessness, resentment and distrust of the rich and the rich acting with indifference and excessive entitlement with the much greater wealth/power given to them by the massive wealth inequality.

We don't see these levels of unrest in nations where wealth is more equally distributed and "authority gradients" are less steep. Nations like Canada and some nations in EU where wealth distribution is at healthy levels. Such system creates trust and friendly relations or cooperation between rich and the lowest working classes.
This smaller income inequality hasn't grown on some coconut tree. It is the result of previous struggles. These countries have strong trade unions, with massive memberships and support. They are able to enforce a better payment for employees.
 
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It's not just many losing their jobs from DOGE but when tesla owner are getting under attacked as well it maybe a symptom of a much bigger problem.

Income inequality is massive in the USA. Common symptoms of this systemic problem is higher stress levels or unease, insecurity among its population, poverty, homelessness, resentment and distrust of the rich and the rich acting with indifference and excessive entitlement with the much greater wealth/power given to them by the massive wealth inequality.

We don't see these levels of unrest in nations where wealth is more equally distributed and "authority gradients" are less steep. Nations like Canada and some nations in EU where wealth distribution is at healthy levels. Such system creates trust and friendly relations or cooperation between rich and the lowest working classes.

I don't think people are simply seeing Tesla owners as supporters of Musk but also people who are rich or on their way to becoming rich.

And because in a country with massive income inequality exists strong resentment towards the rich then it's not hard to see these circumstances are helping to fuel the attacks.

If the unrest escalates further, we might start seeing wealthy people who may not own a Tesla vehicle become targets of attacks as well.

The only solution is find a way to have more equal distribution of wealth like in some EU nations. It will also help mitigate authority gradients and that is efficient.

Income inequality is only a secondary contributing factor. It's contributing moreso to extremist politics in general.
 
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I can't agree that it is "hate for Republicans," since we have seen so much Tesla vandalism outside the US. If you change that to disliking the politics of Elon Musk, that I could accept -- particularly as it relates to people's belief that Musk supports some aspects of White Supremacy and authoritarian government. This had lead to groups in other countries wanting to stop "Swastikars," how they go from 0 to 1939, and even how a feature of the cars is "White Power Steering." Unless, perhaps, you are trying to claim White Supremacy is a Republican attribute?

It is also worth noting that in other areas of the world, Tesla sales started dropping a year ago, well before Elon tied himself to Trump and the Republican Party -- in many EU countries sales were down close to 50% last year.

No, the liberal, socialist, free loading, arrogant European elites hate Republicans too. Remember the Trump Ballon?
 
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I can't agree that it is "hate for Republicans,"
You are right. Sorry, I had Albuequrque in mind, my part of the woods.
If you change that to disliking the politics of Elon Musk, that I could accept
I don't understand the left's animosity toward him, which I learned about when I came to this forum.
This excuse of income inequality is the reason why all kids are breaking the law and destroying property, I don't buy. We have adults here that believe it, but all of us here live in this income inequality- me, my kids, and everyone across America. Still, the biggest difference between most Americans and those bad people is that we are emotionally stable.
Sometimes I feel like looking for these people and beating them with my belt, but then I would be one who can't control my emotions.
 
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The Great depression was the time of the greatest income inequality in our history - there was also zero restrictions and laws about guns - even machine guns - yet the murder rate and violence was not near anything like we have it now - why?
 
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The Great depression was the time of the greatest income inequality in our history
Then there was the early 1900's. The era in which the comic strip Annie began -- in which Daddy War-Bucks had cash by the ton, anarchists throwing bombs were unsurprising, farmers were starving due to wealthy control-dominants in the marketplace, and labor union warfare with guns was also well-known.

There was also the very high murder rate of married people killing their spouses with poison, or if they could manage it, men throwing wives they did not love into sanatoriums.

I'll think, though, that one reason that poorer people killed each other less, was they tended to eat a lot less if they did.
 
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The Great depression was the time of the greatest income inequality in our history - there was also zero restrictions and laws about guns - even machine guns - yet the murder rate and violence was not near anything like we have it now - why?

Violent crime rates actually went up during the Great Depression:

 
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Violent crime rates actually went up during the Great Depression:


Murder rate per 100,000

Between 1920 – 1930 - 9.7

In 2025 6.8

Poverty, unemployment, and depression can lead to violence and bring out the worst in humanity globally.

However, I am not certain that income inequality, as the OP suggests, causes violence.
 
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Murder rate per 100,000

Between 1920 – 1930 - 9.7

In 2025 6.8

Poverty, unemployment, and depression can lead to violence and bring out the worst in humanity globally.

However, I am not certain that income inequality, as the OP suggests, causes violence.

According to Barbara Walter, a former CIA analyst, most civil wars are actually fought by a previously privileged group that refuses to cede power, despite becoming marginalized in society. And in 1930's Germany, Nazism started out as a middle class political movement.
 
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It's not just many losing their jobs from DOGE but when tesla owner are getting under attacked as well it maybe a symptom of a much bigger

We don't see these levels of unrest in nations where wealth is more equally distributed and "authority gradients" are less steep. Nations like Canada and some nations in EU where wealth distribution is at healthy levels. Such system creates trust and friendly relations or cooperation between rich and the lowest working classes.

This is pure fictional.

My wife is from Europe, and we travel there for at least two weeks each year for the past 25 years. Income inequality exists in every European country, along with animosity between rich and poor. Europe has experienced civil unrest over the past 30 years, including in Germany, Spain, France, and Italy.
 
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According to Barbara Walter, a former CIA analyst, most civil wars are actually fought by a previously privileged group that refuses to cede power, despite becoming marginalized in society. And in 1930's Germany, Nazism started out as a middle class political movement.

Wasn't Barbara Walters the anchor for ABC for many years?
 
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Murder rate per 100,000

Between 1920 – 1930 - 9.7

In 2025 6.8

Poverty, unemployment, and depression can lead to violence and bring out the worst in humanity globally.

However, I am not certain that income inequality, as the OP suggests, causes violence.

Ah, but more people overall are killed now.
 
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This is pure fictional.

My wife is from Europe, and we travel there for at least two weeks each year for the past 25 years. Income inequality exists in every European country, along with animosity between rich and poor. Europe has experienced civil unrest over the past 30 years, including in Germany, Spain, France, and Italy.
lol, yeah, idk if I've heard anybody describe the French as being restrained in their protesting.
 
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