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In the next several years you will be offerred the mark of the beast

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These developments are occuring at lightening speed. In a few years I would not be surprised if there are outlets offering this chip under your skin for free or paying you $100 to receive it, since the amount you will spend from it will be far more than $100. The chip costs less than 10 cents.

Has anyone heard of the kondratiev wave that ends in in 2014 and the winter BAAC supercycle that ends at this time, along with the Mayan calendar ending 2012 (it doesn't exist after 2012 they say, whoever they are). The wave we are in right now is apparently the worse of all waves. It may mean nothing or it may mean something. It is the worse because it is deflationary which means it is really hard to inflate debts away as was done in the past.

USA is on the precipice of such debt overhaul (relative to the economy largest in percentage terms ever) that what is going to happen to them is unimaginable and unthinkable comparing the 30s and then hitler that followed when such debt was bad also but not as bad.

Such massive debt and deficits have always collapsed a currency in history or its economy or its stock market. The economic fallout and distress will test us all, and with dirty bombs in suitcases, 50 which are missing in Russia.

I think this is like 1932 to 1937 right now when things rebounded but then after the artificial rebound through false stimulus like borrowing more and spending it to make yourself feel better; then it started to collapse again for 5 straight years through Hitler and WWII when basically all hell broke lose with a heroshima nuclear attack.

The same thing will happen again, but instead of heroshima and nagasaki, it will be a coordinated timed nuclear explosion in NYC and Los Angeles and Washington, at least 3 cities at once. Then USA will respond by nuking every Islamic country on earth 10 times over. There are about 50 Islamic countries.

Israel was suppose to kill every last one of nations in Canaan because they were living evilly and God knew they would not change their gods.

Because Israel did not listen and do what they were suppose to do, this is why we are having these problems today.

In a Great Tribulation this is going to take place and a 1/3 of the inhabitants of the earth will die in Revelation 9-11.

Rev. chapters 6-11 give the major points. 12-19 give the details of those major points.

Get ready.
 

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I believe there will be nuclear war, but it if was as bad as you are describing, it would wipe out all flesh. Jesus promised to return before it reaches that point, otherwise no flesh would be saved.

I agree that the mighty dollar will collapse. The war on terror is going to take its toll on this economy, but I believe the rapture will be the straw that breaks the camels back. Millions will not be here to pay their mortgages, utilities, credit cards........... Then the insurance industry will collapse as well, and banks will be bankrupt. America will become a third world nation overnight, with millions of tax payers nowhere to be found.

The U.S.A. will have no other choice but to give up her soverignty as a new world government is formed. Nations will no longer messure their currency against the dollar, as the Euro will take over, which will lead the world into a global economy, which in turn, will lead to the economic mark of the beast.

It's very interesting to consider the reason that Europe decided to unify itself into a single body was because they wanted to establish and protect "international peace and security," and it is this "international peace and security" that will ultimately lead the world to sudden destruction.

1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 - " For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. (3)For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

They may truely be seeking peace, but these are blind guides, for true peace can not be found without the true Prince of Peace. So in the end, with their worldly wisdom they will only find a false peace in this dark world, which is nothing less than a trap. Jesus said, "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives" (John 14:27).

On Sept. 11th, 2001, Satan set another trap for those who are in the world. The deceiver is giving the world a choice between (peace and security) or (terrorism). It's a war in which both sides will be led into the trap. The only way to escape this trap is to obey God and come out of the world (Luke 21:34-36). God's word demands that we be holy (set apart from the world), and obedient. Satan won't tell you that, but God has told us many times. Unfortunately, I believe that even some christian believers will be caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Many believers are chasing after the things in this world and won't be ready.
 
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The Mayan Calendar ending in 2012.


Ya lets trust priest who brutally slaughter men woman and children literally the blood of tens of thousands to gain their "insight" into the future.

No wonder you are so lost on who the AC is you refuse to accept the fact that only the true words of God's Prophets are worth trusting.

The choosing of the 144,000 is in the works and when complete the Late Rain will be sealed at Pentecost with the Spirit as in days of Old.

Each of us who claim to be Christian must be a voice of Truth standing up in our respective Churches and calling all to repent of the Great sins we have committed in the name of the Lord. Will your church be one of the Five Churches found prepared or will your church be one of the five Virgins caught without the Oil (the True Word of God) Did you ever think that maybe YOU will be the Stone that tips the scale for your brothers and sisters in fellowship

It is time for all true Christians to stand up and say no more of this we will play Satan's Game no more. Soon it is the Time to celebrate the Sacrifice of the Lamb and our freedom. Who is willing to stand with Jesus and say I will not play Satan's game. Who will stand with Jesus and say.

Lk 22:[49] And when those who were about him saw what would follow, they said, "Lord, shall we strike with the sword?" [50] And one of them struck the slave of the high priest and cut off his right ear. [51] But Jesus said, "No more of this!" And he touched his ear and healed him.

The Reality is the mark has always been here it surrounds us every day. The Mark of Satan is Sin.

The mark is obtained by being blotted out of the book of life, because you have not washed your robes in the blood of the Lamb.

At Judgment day you are either found in the Book of life or Blotted out for your refusal to repent.

Gee being blotted out that sounds like it would leave a mark doesn’t it.

[font=&quot]The mark of God is keeping the 10 Commandments The mark of Satan is Sin.[/font]
 
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Just The Facts said:
The Mayan Calendar ending in 2012.


Ya lets trust priest who brutally slaughter men woman and children literally the blood of tens of thousands to gain their "insight" into the future.

No wonder you are so lost on who the AC is you refuse to accept the fact that only the true words of God's Prophets are worth trusting.

Instead you follow the doctrines of men and of yourself in a wandering through the wilderness of ignorance that makes the Hebrews lack of Faith in the one true God and the Truth of his prophets seem insignificant.

The choosing of the 144,000 is in the works and when complete the Late Rain will be sealed at Pentecost with the Spirit as in days of Old.

Each of us who claim to be Christian must be a voice of Truth standing up in our respective Churches and calling all to repent of the Great sins we have committed in the name of the Lord. Will your church be one of the Five Churches found prepared or will your church be one of the five Virgins caught without the Oil (the True Word of God) Did you ever think that maybe YOU will be the Stone that tips the scale for your brothers and sisters in fellowship

It is time for all true Christians to stand up and say no more of this we will play Satan's Game no more. Soon it is the Time to celebrate the Sacrifice of the Lamb and our freedom. Who is willing to stand with Jesus and say I will not play Satan's game. Who will stand with Jesus and say.

Lk 22:[49] And when those who were about him saw what would follow, they said, "Lord, shall we strike with the sword?" [50] And one of them struck the slave of the high priest and cut off his right ear. [51] But Jesus said, "No more of this!" And he touched his ear and healed him.

The Reality is the mark has always been here it surrounds us every day. The Mark of Satan is Sin.

The mark is obtained by being blotted out of the book of life, because you have not washed your robes in the blood of the Lamb.

At Judgment day you are either found in the Book of life or Blotted out for your refusal to repent.

Gee being blotted out that sounds like it would leave a mark doesn’t it.

[font=&quot]The mark of God is keeping the 10 Commandments The mark of Satan is Sin.[/font]
Okay. One question: In the above you keep using the word "You". As in:
No wonder you are so lost on who the AC is you refuse to accept the fact that only the true words of God's Prophets are worth trusting.
Who are you talking to ? Anyone in particular???
 
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Ohhhhhhhhhhh...took me a few minutes to process! You were referring to the OP with regard to the Mayan calendar...well, I'm "old calendar" and ours goes for literally fifty thousand years. We just will keep it until "the end"...:p....by the way, when I said above that I was skeptical, I didn't mean that I was skeptical of "the last days" or the Judgement. I only meant that I am skeptical of those who practice date setting and stretched prophecies...my apologies for causing any confusion with my own confusion!!!!
 
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No offense to Chip people, but the mark of the beast IMO, is spiritual. Just as ALOT of the book of revelation. "Beast out of the sea", "harlot", "Babylon", etc.

if you notice the mark is in the right hand (Works or actions) or in the forehead (the mind or though life), God's people were also marked in the book of Revelation in their foreheads I believe. Again, we are marked by our actions and thoughts. What we think, so we are.

A good tree can't bring forth bad fruit, and vice versa.
every tree is known by its fruit.

He that is born of God does not sin (continually) (or make it his lifestyle)
He that commiteth sin(continually or of a lifestyle) is not of God and hasn't KNOWN God

"Depart from me, ye that work iniquity, I NEVER KNEW YOU"
 
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Hi Suzannah

I was speaking to Troy or TRB, Who blieves the AC will be Nero reincarnated, instead of who the Bible says it is in very plain language.

The AC is the King of the Fallen Angels.

8: The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

that is the AC in the Pit right now

Here is who he is

11: And they had a king over them, which is the ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

It really is very simple The AC is now in the Pit................. the King of the Pit is a Fallen Angel.................... so either the AC is the King....the Angel of the Pit or he is some no-name lacky stuck in the Pit. I think it is safe to say he is the King of the Pit and thereby the King of the Fallen Angels.

See Two verses and the mystery is over now we all know WHO the AC is.
 
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Okay,that was deep! Now check this out,We are in the last days already,yes it gets very frightening,yet we are in the times prophesied about thousands of years before we were all born,and we are watching it all happen. There may be some denial,but the bible tells us that there is a blessing for those who study revelation,and the more we study,the less afraid we may be.How long do you think that I.D. chip will hang around?
remember,some of us were telling people about it before it came out,and some didn't believe us! It's here,and where are they going with it? Prince Charles already has one,and his son's! I really wonder how much longer until it's forced on people because the AC is also called the one who pierces!
Prepare to be strong even if we will be raptured as I think we will be. Isaiah 26:19-21,the dead rise before the tribulation,because we still don't know when the rapture will come before the trib,or what christians will be going through.The gays already call us the haters,like Ellen Degenerous.
Lets pray for one another and be strong brothers and sisters.Lets stay in touch as often as possible to gain more courage,and lets use our freedom to tell others about Jesus while we still can,o.k?
For all who agree,say I.......love Jesus Christ!!!!
 
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Since the falling star is Satan in Rev. 9.1, then out of the pit must be a different manifestation of Satan than merely spirit form of a falling star from heaven. Such would be in the flesh, trying to copy the 2nd Person of Holy Trinity in every respect he can, which would be the Antichrist out of the pit, Nero revived (not resurrected). He will reenter the soul of his body of the 7th. This is a very special principle of his attainment as the Antichrist. We are appointed once to die so after this Nero goes to the lake of fire and that is why in the language of Jesus, Caesar Nero = 666.
 
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From what I have been reading, some Christian writers believe we are in the end days...the signs certainly point to that. The Bible is quite clear though that only the Father knows the appointed time and the day...it is barely worth our while, in fact, even wrong, to try and determine the exact day and time.

I cannot see how in our lifetime people will be forced to carry a mark on their bodies that will allow them to buy and sell goods though...all this talk about the rise of the EU and collapse of the US is frightening, even talk of nuclear war. I was convinced that 'the abomination that causes desolation' referred to nuclear weapons but have since been reassured that it is not --> it is so easy to jump to conclusions. The hope I have rests in Christs's faithfulness, even failing a pre-tribulation Rapture I have to place my trust in His Word and know that the only option is to be faithful, even to the very end.

PS. Does anyone understand in the case of a pre-trib Rapture why some of the literature I have read states that the Antichrist will be able to deceive those alive at the time of the Tribulation as to the nature of the Rapture? Even in the event of all Christians being taken away to be with Christ, the truth of what has happened will be apparent to those left behind through God's Word i.e. the Bible will it not?!
 
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diantha said:
Okay,that was deep! Now check this out,We are in the last days already,yes it gets very frightening,yet we are in the times prophesied about thousands of years before we were all born,and we are watching it all happen. There may be some denial,but the bible tells us that there is a blessing for those who study revelation,and the more we study,the less afraid we may be.How long do you think that I.D. chip will hang around?
remember,some of us were telling people about it before it came out,and some didn't believe us! It's here,and where are they going with it? Prince Charles already has one,and his son's! I really wonder how much longer until it's forced on people because the AC is also called the one who pierces!
Prepare to be strong even if we will be raptured as I think we will be. Isaiah 26:19-21,the dead rise before the tribulation,because we still don't know when the rapture will come before the trib,or what christians will be going through.The gays already call us the haters,like Ellen Degenerous.
Lets pray for one another and be strong brothers and sisters.Lets stay in touch as often as possible to gain more courage,and lets use our freedom to tell others about Jesus while we still can,o.k?
For all who agree,say I.......love Jesus Christ!!!!


I LOVE JESUS CHRIST. AMEN :clap:
 
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caillan said:
From what I have been reading, some Christian writers believe we are in the end days...the signs certainly point to that. The Bible is quite clear though that only the Father knows the appointed time and the day...it is barely worth our while, in fact, even wrong, to try and determine the exact day and time.

I cannot see how in our lifetime people will be forced to carry a mark on their bodies that will allow them to buy and sell goods though...all this talk about the rise of the EU and collapse of the US is frightening, even talk of nuclear war. I was convinced that 'the abomination that causes desolation' referred to nuclear weapons but have since been reassured that it is not --> it is so easy to jump to conclusions. The hope I have rests in Christs's faithfulness, even failing a pre-tribulation Rapture I have to place my trust in His Word and know that the only option is to be faithful, even to the very end.

PS. Does anyone understand in the case of a pre-trib Rapture why some of the literature I have read states that the Antichrist will be able to deceive those alive at the time of the Tribulation as to the nature of the Rapture? Even in the event of all Christians being taken away to be with Christ, the truth of what has happened will be apparent to those left behind through God's Word i.e. the Bible will it not?!

caillan

Remember, scripture tells us we do not know the day or the hour, only the Father knows the day and hour Christ will return and set His feet on the Mount of Olives. This is the second coming for the battle of Armegaddon

Zechariah 14:1-7 1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. 6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: 7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

Christ said we can know the signs of the season.

Mark 13:5-13 5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you: 6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. 8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows. 9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. 10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. 12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Sounds familiar, but many before us said the same thing.

I believe this passage is the strongest referal to the rapture. Notice that we go to meet the Lord in the clouds. He does not set foot on the earth.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

If the Church is taken out there will be no "pillar" left to reveal the truth to people, it will be very easy for people to be deceived. Look at all the documents we need to carry licenses, birth certificates, passports, medical records, etc. If something happens like terrorism or war or any tragic event which requires that massive amounts of people be mobilized or evacuated. Much of our documents can get lost. I can see how people would be will to accept an ID chip with their lifes information on it. It also helps to identify the dead, if finger prints and dental recoeds are not available.

As far as the AC being able to deceive people, satan has been doing that since he fell from heaven. How could Eve have let herself be deceived when the devil entered into the serpent. With the devil behind the AC he will easily deceive many.

It can get pretty scary. But praise the Lord, :bow: He is in total control. He created satan, brought him into this world, God will surely take him out.

Don't get too concerned, it is all part of God's plan, it is all layed out in scripture. I have read the Book. I know how it ends. God wins.:clap: Devil loses.:p Actually he lost awhile ago at the cross, he just won't admit it.

Keep praying and looking up. Our redemption is drawing near. :prayer:

Mike :wave:
 
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