In reference to God creating an earth made with apparent age,

[Hammster]

Talking snakes, magical trees, angels with flaming swords . . . what more do you need to indicate a parable?

There are very few parables in the OT. They are distinguishable.

 

[Hammster]

So no response on all of the purposeful changes would need to be made in order to make the Earth look like it does? It is just our fault for thinking fossils came from once living organisms?

I'm not doubting that fossils come from once living beings.

 

[Loudmouth]

There are very few parables in the OT. They are distinguishable.

And what distinguishes the creation story is talking snakes, magical trees, angels with flaming swords, a magical garden, and so forth.

 

[Hammster]

It is really sad that the only responses we can get in a science forum is apologetics.

A Christian decrying apologetics is problematic.

 

[RickG]

I'm not doubting that fossils come from once living beings.

Do you doubt the validity of dating methods?

 

[Hammster]

And what distinguishes the creation story is talking snakes, magical trees, angels with flaming swords, a magical garden, and so forth.

You don't believe anything in scripture. So you not believing this is no surprise.

 

[RickG]

A Christian decrying apologetics is problematic.

Thank you for your opinion. My opinion is that science should be discussed in a science forum.

 

[Loudmouth]

I'm not doubting that fossils come from once living beings.

The appearance of age that creationists put forth requires these fossils to be fakes. They claim that rocks date old through radiometric dating because they were created with the appearance of age. Those rocks sit on top of fossil bearing sediments. This means that if the rocks above fossils were created as part of the Earth during the creation week, then the fossils were also created in this event. God would have to create fake fossils.

If these rocks were not created during the creation event, then creationists do not have an explanation for why they date so old. This puts us back to square one, and the creationists without an explanation for the facts.

So either God created the Earth with fake fossils, or this appearance of age explanation is hogwash. Which is it?

 

[Hammster]

Do you doubt the validity of dating methods?

I'm more for courtships now, but I know a lot of successful marriages that came from dating.

 

[Loudmouth]

You don't believe anything in scripture. So you not believing this is no surprise.

You don't have to believe in divine authorship in order to see obvious parables when you see them.

 

[Hammster]

Thank you for your opinion. My opinion is that science should be discussed in a science forum.

And mine is that Christianity should be discussed in a Christian Forum, even if it crosses into the realm of science.

 

[Hammster]

The appearance of age that creationists put forth requires these fossils to be fakes. They claim that rocks date old through radiometric dating because they were created with the appearance of age. Those rocks sit on top of fossil bearing sediments. This means that if the rocks above fossils were created as part of the Earth during the creation week, then the fossils were also created in this event. God would have to create fake fossils.

If these rocks were not created during the creation event, then creationists do not have an explanation for why they date so old. This puts us back to square one, and the creationists without an explanation for the facts.

So either God created the Earth with fake fossils, or this appearance with age explanation is hogwash. Which is it?

I guess you'll have to take that up with those who believe in fake fossils.

 

[Loudmouth]

I guess you'll have to take that up with those who believe in fake fossils.

You don't support the idea that the Earth was created with the appearance of age?

 

[Hammster]

You don't have to believe in divine authorship in order to see obvious parables when you see them.

Parables have a lesson about a greater truth. What's the truth that this parable is conveying?

 

[Hammster]

You don't support the idea that the Earth was created with the appearance of age?

I do support it. I also support that there is aging after creation.

 

[Loudmouth]

I do support it.

Then you also support fake fossils, as described earlier.

I also support that there is aging after creation.

In your model, there should only be 6,000 years of aging after creation. Therefore, any fossils found under rocks with millions of years of aging had to be created in the original creation event.

 

[RickG]

I'm more for courtships now, but I know a lot of successful marriages that came from dating.

Again, do you have a problem with geologic and/or related dating methods in determining age of things or processes in the physical environment of our earth? I feel this is a very important question with respect to the topic of this thread which questions the age of the earth and its physical environmental processes.

 

[Hammster]

Then you also support fake fossils, as described earlier.



In your model, there should only be 6,000 years of aging after creation. Therefore, any fossils found under rocks with millions of years of aging had to be created in the original creation event.

True. I won't argue against that.

 

[Hammster]

Again, do you have a problem with geologic and/or related dating methods in determining age of things or processes in the physical environment of our earth? I feel this is a very important question with respect to the topic of this thread which questions the age of the earth and its physical environmental processes.

I have a problem with anything that opposes scripture.

 

[Loudmouth]

I have a problem with anything that opposes scripture.

Would it be fair to say that no matter what evidence is found, you will not change your mind?