In reference to God creating an earth made with apparent age,

[Loudmouth]

I'm not concerned with your skepticism. I was just addressing the post.

Just to help our understanding, would you say that there is no scientific evidence or reasoning behind your assertions?

 

[SkyWriting]

It makes no sense at all.

My conclusion is
the specific order of creation is not the intended message.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would God do such a thing,knowing that it would sow the seeds of confusion and disbelief?
My God would do no such thing.
Please keep with the OP and keep it civil.

From Adam Clarke's Commentary:

It appears that God created every thing, not only perfect as it respects its nature, but also in a state of maturity, so that every vegetable production appeared at once in full growth; and this was necessary that man, when he came into being, might find every thing ready for his use.

 

[Hammster]

Just to help our understanding, would you say that there is no scientific evidence or reasoning behind your assertions?

For what? That the Sun isn't required for light? I'm sure there is.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's not a problem. The Sun is not necessary for light.

And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb. - Revelation 21:23

The Earth needs light. That may not be true elsewhere.

 

[Loudmouth]

For what? That the Sun isn't required for light? I'm sure there is.

Do you happen to have that scientific evidence or reasoning that you can share with us?

 

[Loudmouth]

I suspect that the whole mixup between Sun and Light in Genesis has to do with the mistaken assumption that the blue sky and the Sun were different lights. It was simply something the biblical authors got wrong. Of course, parables and allegories hardly require scientific accuracy in order to convey truth.

 

[AV1611VET]

How many former Christians do you suppose it has already tripped up?

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[Subduction Zone]

For what? That the Sun isn't required for light? I'm sure there is.

Then since you are the one that is making the claim it is up to you to support that claim. And since the accuracy of the Bible is what is under discussion then it is circular reasoning to use the Bible for support. This looks like a case where this is your interpretation of the Bible, and not necessarily what the Bible actually means.

 

[Hammster]

The Earth needs light. That may not be true elsewhere.

Yep. I don't believe I've said otherwise.

 

[lesliedellow]

Yep. I don't believe I've said otherwise.

Well, light doesn't arrive from nowhere; it needs a source which produces that wavelength of electromagnetic radiation.

 

[Hammster]

Then since you are the one that is making the claim it is up to you to support that claim. And since the accuracy of the Bible is what is under discussion then it is circular reasoning to use the Bible for support. This looks like a case where this is your interpretation of the Bible, and not necessarily what the Bible actually means.

Gen 1:2 states that God said let there be light. Then later on it says that God created the Sun on day four.

If you want to claim that this is just my interpretation of the bible, then so be it. But I'm not sure how else to interpret it. It seems fairly strait forward, even if you disbelieve it.

 

[Hammster]

Well, light doesn't arrive from nowhere; it needs a source which produces that wavelength of electromagnetic radiation.

I never claimed it arrived from nowhere.

 

[lesliedellow]

I never claimed it arrived from nowhere.

In that case, where did it arrive from, prior to there being a Sun?

 

[Hammster]

In that case, where did it arrive from, prior to there being a Sun?

This isn't an entirely fleshed out response, but the answer is God.

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change. - James 1:17

 

[RickG]

For what? That the Sun isn't required for light? I'm sure there is.

But it is required for life.

 

[lesliedellow]

This isn't an entirely fleshed out response

You can say that again. God isn't a word you can just wave around as the answer to every question.

 

[Hammster]

But it is required for life.

Not according to Revelation.

 

[Hammster]

You can say that again. God isn't a word you can just wave around as the answer to every question.

I didn't. I provided scripture.

 

[lesliedellow]

Not according to Revelation.

How about biologists, or don't they know what they are talking about? It is easy enough to test. Just shut a plant away in a darkened room, with everything else it needs, but no light.