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In reference to God creating an earth made with apparent age,

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Genesis 2:19 reads - Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them...

"had formed" is וַיִּצֶר֩ which is the WCI form of the verb. WCI is past tense but it can refer to events in the past or completed events - hence the ESV translation here. So it can very well mean that God had, in the past, formed the animals (before he formed Adam). There is not necessarily a contradiction here.
There is no pluperfect tense in Hebrew. Hence, this translation is invalid. Also, the way the Hebrew text is set up, the only back reference is to the fact God found it was not good for man to be alone.
 
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There is no pluperfect tense in Hebrew. Hence, this translation is invalid. Also, the way the Hebrew text is set up, the only back reference is to the fact God found it was not good for man to be alone.

It is obvious to me that you don't understand Hebrew.
 
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Sorry,I'm closing it if you can't discuss the WHY instead of the hows or ifs!
WHY WOULD HE CREATE A YOUNG EARTH WITH OLD AGE APPEARANCE KNOWING IT WOULD CAUSE STRIFE AMONGST HIS BELIEVERS?
WHY WOULD HE SOW THE SEEDS OF DISSENT AND DECEPTION?
 
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According to some fellow posters on this site,there are quite a few..if not directly,but it is just one one of the factors in them falling away.
It caused them to question their faith.

You can take responsibility for your own life,
you can blame others for the direction it is pointed,
or you can Trust that God has your best
interests in mind no matter what happens.
 
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Sorry,I'm closing it if you can't discuss the WHY instead of the hows or ifs!WHY WOULD HE CREATE A YOUNG EARTH WITH OLD AGE APPEARANCE KNOWING IT WOULD CAUSE STRIFE AMONGST HIS BELIEVERS?WHY WOULD HE SOW THE SEEDS OF DISSENT AND DECEPTION?

Because God always knows what is best for His children
and he has every possible response from you mapped
out so that He accomplishes exactly what he had
planned from the start. That's why. He expected grumblers.
Your question is one God was patiently waiting for you to post.
 
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Your addition is not in scripture..

And so
what did you find,
what does it mean to you,
and how would you apply it back in it's proper context
without my commentary?
 
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So what is best for us is to argue amongst our selves?
How would that be good for our faith and the image of Christianity to the other religions and those of no faith at all?

Scripture says it is among the worst of things
for us
to argue about it.
Arguing goes against faith.
Somewhere in 1st Timothy.
 
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Why should this be a problem for God? God is the source of fruit.

Because without photosynthesis the trees would be dead.

More special pleading, to add to your mountain full of it?

You show signs of treading the path of more than one YEC before you, and ending up an atheist when reality finally breaks through.
 
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I think it's hard to come up with a why that doesn't specifically make God come across as deceptive. I agree that God wouldn't create the universe and the world with the appearance of old age, plus the inclusion of fossils that range from 65 million years old to several hundred thousand on one end to several hundred million on the other end.

I really think it's all just down to people taking a literal reading of the Bible as the be-all-and-end-all of the thing for no other reason than that they do.
 
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1. Why would God do such a thing,
2. knowing that it would sow the seeds of confusion and disbelief?
3. My God would do no such thing.

Thanks to #3 we can see the problem lies with #2.
"2. knowing that it would sow the seeds of confusion and disbelief?"
God is all knowing so that narrows it to "it would sow the seeds of confusion and disbelief"

A. God would send things to confuse us
or
B. God didn't send the message.

A. God wants us to choose faith.

I like A.
 
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Thanks to #3 we can see the problem lies with #2.
"2. knowing that it would sow the seeds of confusion and disbelief?"
God is all knowing so that narrows it to "it would sow the seeds of confusion and disbelief"

A. God would send things to confuse us
or
B. God didn't send the message.

A. God wants us to choose faith.

I like A.

Then why did he wait until the nineteenth century AD before deciding to test our faith?
 
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Then why did he wait until the nineteenth century AD before deciding to test our faith?

That's a good point. Now I'm leaning toward B.

Though there are a number of situations that could
potentially challenge my faith that didn't happen
until I started this post. So God had to wait for Al
Gore to invent the internet first.
 
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Why would God do such a thing,knowing that it would sow the seeds of confusion and disbelief?
My God would do no such thing.
Please keep with the OP and keep it civil.

You know how the Kardashians are not real celebrities?
Well Geology is the Kardashians of Science.
Video Clip
 
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