In Las Vegas, Harris promises to end tips for service industry employees, echoing Trump pledge

[Valletta]

“It is my promise to everyone here, when I am president, we will continue our fight for working families,” Harris said, pledging to raise the minimum wage and “eliminate tips for service and hospitality workers.”

In Las Vegas, Harris promises to end tips for service industry employees, echoing Trump pledge

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Vice President Kamala Harris vowed Saturday that, if elected, she'd eliminate federal taxes on tips paid to restaurant workers and scores of other service employees, echoing a pledge that her opponent in November, Donald Trump, has made in a rare moment of political overlap from...

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She's something!

 

[comana]

No one should be making up the difference between their wage and paying bills on tips. It’s cruel. Pay a livable wage and not expect your patrons to pay your workers in tips.

 

[Bradskii]

“It is my promise to everyone here, when I am president, we will continue our fight for working families,” Harris said, pledging to raise the minimum wage and “eliminate tips for service and hospitality workers.”

In Las Vegas, Harris promises to end tips for service industry employees, echoing Trump pledge

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Vice President Kamala Harris vowed Saturday that, if elected, she'd eliminate federal taxes on tips paid to restaurant workers and scores of other service employees, echoing a pledge that her opponent in November, Donald Trump, has made in a rare moment of political overlap from...

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Good to see that there's some agreement across the aisle on helping the lower paid workers.

Incidentally: Harris pledges to work to end taxes on tips for service industry employees, echoing Trump vow

'But the union representing 60,000 workers in that industry, the Culinary Workers Union, announced its endorsement of Harris. About 54% of the union's members are Latino, 55% women and 60% immigrants.

No wonder they are supporting Harris. Trump wants that 60% in camps and will then, somehow, remove them from the country, to...somewhere. With the approval of...someone wherever they are being sent. I'm sure he'll supply the details soon.

 

[Occams Barber]

Good to see that there's some agreement across the aisle on helping the lower paid workers.

Incidentally: Harris pledges to work to end taxes on tips for service industry employees, echoing Trump vow

'But the union representing 60,000 workers in that industry, the Culinary Workers Union, announced its endorsement of Harris. About 54% of the union's members are Latino, 55% women and 60% immigrants.

No wonder they are supporting Harris. Trump wants that 60% in camps and will then, somehow, remove them from the country, to...somewhere. With the approval of...someone wherever they are being sent. I'm sure he'll supply the details soon.

I hope it's the beginning of the end to American Serfdom but I somehow doubt it.

OB

 

[Valletta]

Good to see that there's some agreement across the aisle on helping the lower paid workers.

Incidentally: Harris pledges to work to end taxes on tips for service industry employees, echoing Trump vow

'But the union representing 60,000 workers in that industry, the Culinary Workers Union, announced its endorsement of Harris. About 54% of the union's members are Latino, 55% women and 60% immigrants.

No wonder they are supporting Harris. Trump wants that 60% in camps and will then, somehow, remove them from the country, to...somewhere. With the approval of...someone wherever they are being sent. I'm sure he'll supply the details soon.

Union leaders, especially the powerful ones, almost always go for the Democrats. We'll see if when she talks to the seniors she offers to cut taxes on Social Security.

 

[comana]

Union leaders, especially the powerful ones, almost always go for the Democrats.

could that be because the Republicans are on the side of the corporations instead of the employees?

 

[Occams Barber]

Union leaders, especially the powerful ones, almost always go for the Democrats.

The left side of politics and labour organisations are natural allies in most democratic countries.

OB

 

[Bradskii]

Union leaders, especially the powerful ones, almost always go for the Democrats.

Darn right. The Democrats have their back. You'd be praising them if the backed Trump. And he'd give anything for their support. But he won't get it: Labor unions start to unify behind Kamala Harris. Here's why.

Within hours of Kamala’s candidacy, some of the nation’s largest unions offered an outright endorsement and others heaped Harris with praise, while acknowledging that an internal endorsement process must run its course.

The support owes to a perception of Harris as a labor ally and an heir apparent to Biden, as well as an acknowledgment of the difficulty of a shortened campaign in which unions are eager to turn toward defeating Trump, union leaders and labor experts told ABC News.

“Labor unions are coalescing quickly around Kamala Harris,” Stuart Applebaum, president of the Retail, Wholesale, Department Store Union, which endorsed Harris, told ABC News. “We’re excited.”

The Service Employees International Union, whose 2 million members make it the nation’s largest private sector union, endorsed Harris on Sunday. So did Local 3000 of the United Food and Commercial Workers.

On Monday, several other unions followed suit with endorsements, including the American Federation of Teachers.

AFL-CIO, the nation’s largest labor organization, which boasts 60 affiliate unions with 12.5 million members, issued a statement on Sunday speaking of Harris in favorable terms but remains in the midst of its endorsement process.

The United Auto Workers, an influential union in key swing states, will likely convene its international executive board to discuss a possible endorsement, a union official said. In a statement, the official called Harris an “ally” and a “champion” for workers.'

What else would you expect?

 

[Pommer]

I hope it's the beginning of the end to American Serfdom but I somehow doubt it.

OB

Beats being a newt

I hope it's the beginning of the end to American Serfdom but I somehow doubt it.

OB

Oh please, we don’t even have much of a history with general-strikes, most of the workers whom would likely fill the streets during a general strike, aren’t allowed to legally be on the sidewalks, let alone out blocking traffic and not working.

We’ll “quit” the next generation (or two), we swear!

 

[Pommer]

The left side of politics and labour organisations are natural allies in most democratic countries.

OB

Because the right gravitates towards where more money is accumulated (the owners).

Don’t get me wrong, the Right always does the correct thing, and throws labor a bone every now and again, when made to.

 

[rjs330]

No one should be making up the difference between their wage and paying bills on tips. It’s cruel. Pay a livable wage and not expect your patrons to pay your workers in tips.

I'll bring honest I really liked that when visiting Europe. No tips, just the bill.

It would take a significant cultural shift though. Because here we expect our waiters to wait on us often and provide good service.

There rhe culture is they wait on you until you get your food then they are done. They don't see you again until you ask them to. AND the customer does not WANT them to wait on you until they ask for it. They want to be left alone.

I'm good with paying the waiters just a wage and changing our culture to more of the European style, but it wouldn't be easy for sure.

In the US there would be waiters who just would provide the current types of service because they wouldn't need the tips. So we would have to change the customers expectations. Definitely different.

 

[rjs330]

could that be because the Republicans are on the side of the corporations instead of the employees?

No.

 

[rjs330]

Darn right. The Democrats have their back. You'd be praising them if the backed Trump. And he'd give anything for their support. But he won't get it: Labor unions start to unify behind Kamala Harris. Here's why.

Within hours of Kamala’s candidacy, some of the nation’s largest unions offered an outright endorsement and others heaped Harris with praise, while acknowledging that an internal endorsement process must run its course.

The support owes to a perception of Harris as a labor ally and an heir apparent to Biden, as well as an acknowledgment of the difficulty of a shortened campaign in which unions are eager to turn toward defeating Trump, union leaders and labor experts told ABC News.

“Labor unions are coalescing quickly around Kamala Harris,” Stuart Applebaum, president of the Retail, Wholesale, Department Store Union, which endorsed Harris, told ABC News. “We’re excited.”

The Service Employees International Union, whose 2 million members make it the nation’s largest private sector union, endorsed Harris on Sunday. So did Local 3000 of the United Food and Commercial Workers.

On Monday, several other unions followed suit with endorsements, including the American Federation of Teachers.

AFL-CIO, the nation’s largest labor organization, which boasts 60 affiliate unions with 12.5 million members, issued a statement on Sunday speaking of Harris in favorable terms but remains in the midst of its endorsement process.

The United Auto Workers, an influential union in key swing states, will likely convene its international executive board to discuss a possible endorsement, a union official said. In a statement, the official called Harris an “ally” and a “champion” for workers.'

What else would you expect?

Nothing because the unions have always been for the democrats.

This is no big deal and no surprise.

 

[ozso]

No one should be making up the difference between their wage and paying bills on tips. It’s cruel. Pay a livable wage and not expect your patrons to pay your workers in tips.

Having worked in the restaurant and service industry, I know they make more money via tips. I used to watch them count their wads of cash at end of the night.

 

[Occams Barber]

I'll bring honest I really liked that when visiting Europe. No tips, just the bill.

It would take a significant cultural shift though. Because here we expect our waiters to wait on us often and provide good service.

There rhe culture is they wait on you until you get your food then they are done. They don't see you again until you ask them to. AND the customer does not WANT them to wait on you until they ask for it. They want to be left alone.

I'm good with paying the waiters just a wage and changing our culture to more of the European style, but it wouldn't be easy for sure.

In the US there would be waiters who just would provide the current types of service because they wouldn't need the tips. So we would have to change the customers expectations. Definitely different.

I'll bring honest I really liked that when visiting Europe. No tips, just the bill.

It would take a significant cultural shift though. Because here we expect our waiters to wait on us often and provide good service.

There rhe culture is they wait on you until you get your food then they are done. They don't see you again until you ask them to. AND the customer does not WANT them to wait on you until they ask for it. They want to be left alone.

I'm good with paying the waiters just a wage and changing our culture to more of the European style, but it wouldn't be easy for sure.

In the US there would be waiters who just would provide the current types of service because they wouldn't need the tips. So we would have to change the customers expectations. Definitely different.

Australians don't tip and Australian wait staff don't expect a tip. One reason for this is that, by law, wait staff get paid a real wage. Another reason for not tipping is cultural and more subtle. Tipping sets up an expectation of wait staff adopting a subservient relationship with their customers. Australians are extremely egalitarian. They ride in the front seat of taxis and talk to the driver, they make a point of saying Please and Thank You to Checkout operators, most people are addressed by their first name (or nickname) irrespective of age or wealth or social status

To treat waiting staff like servants is anathema to Australian culture. That's why we don't tip.

OB

 

[Pommer]

Having worked in the restaurant and service industry, I know they make more money via tips. I used to watch them count their wads of cash at end of the night.

Having driven pizza and being told “wait, I think I gave you too much money!”, I calmly assured them that that wasn’t possible. It was “just enough”.

 

[ozso]

Fun factoid: tip stands for "to insure promptness". Or so I've heard.

 

[ozso]

Having driven pizza and being told “wait, I think I gave you too much money!”, I calmly assured them that that wasn’t possible. It was “just enough”.

I always used to stiff the pizza delivery guy. I figured it would motivate him to get a better paying job. Just kidding. As far as I can recall I've never ordered a pizza delivery in my life.

 

[Bradskii]

Having driven pizza and being told “wait, I think I gave you too much money!”, I calmly assured them that that wasn’t possible. It was “just enough”.

I get a message from Uber a couple of days after I've used them asking me what I thought of the trip. I used to try to give 4/5. On the basis that it wasn't the best drive I'm likely to have - I'll save that for some dude who gives me a cold beer on the way home (illegal, but hey...). The app then always asked 'What went wrong?' Well, nothing. So I had to change it to 5.

Then it asks if I want to leave a tip. Well...OK. Whatever I might give a taxi driver. But for some reason my card would accept the cost of the trip but not the tip. So when a couple of tips were outstanding I wasn't able to call an Uber. It would say that I'm in arrears.

So now they always get 5/5 but no tip as I rarely carry cash.

Second (and last) tip story: First time in NY. Cab from airport to hotel near Times Square. Fare came to $40 (quite a few years ago). I had nothing but fifties so I gave him one, said 'keep the change' and walked to the hotel entrance. He followed me, gave me the fifty back and said he didn't take less than a $20 tip. Stunned silence. Luckily US money is paper so it scrunches up quite nicely. I left him looking for the bill on the street with a suggestion that he go enjoy himself.

 

[Bradskii]

Having driven pizza and being told “wait, I think I gave you too much money!”, I calmly assured them that that wasn’t possible. It was “just enough”.

If I was ordering pizza using the same delivery service I would always tip. If you don't and the same guy delivers the next one...well, let's just say that those pizza boxes aren't sealed.