In Defense of Benny Hinn

[Mathetes the kerux]

Well, that's what my father told me. If Benny Hinn doesn't repent, the Holy Spirit won't come upon him. My father tells me that the prophecies that Hinn made were from his thinking.

If Benny Hinn doesn't repent, the Holy Spirit won't come upon him.

Unfortunately the Bible does not support this

My father tells me that the prophecies that Hinn made were from his thinking

Could be, prophecies are a bit different than healings tho. I would probably agree with your dad here . . . based on Hinns content.

 

[Mathetes the kerux]

Hello,

So then God shows up at those crusades? even if it not led by the Holy Spirit?(assumedly)

Most assuredly . . . his eyes go to and fro to do what?

2 Chron 16:8-9
9 "For the eyes of the LORD move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His.
NASU


I KNOW for a FACT that there are many there that are ignorant of the error that takes place in some of those places. Their hearts are genuinely seeking, they just dont know better, and when He reveals more, they will leave that grouping of people . . . or perhaps be called to become change agents. Look at the World Wide Church of God . . . heretics . . . and the WHOLE denomination recants and embraces orthodoxy! Praise God.

 

[blessedmomof5]

WELL SAID

Most assuredly . . . his eyes go to and fro to do what?

2 Chron 16:8-9
9 "For the eyes of the LORD move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His.
NASU


I KNOW for a FACT that there are many there that are ignorant of the error that takes place in some of those places. Their hearts are genuinely seeking, they just dont know better, and when He reveals more, they will leave that grouping of people . . . or perhaps be called to become change agents. Look at the World Wide Church of God . . . heretics . . . and the WHOLE denomination recants and embraces orthodoxy! Praise God.

 

[Mathetes the kerux]

WELL SAID

 

[Jpark]

Never mind.

 

[Mathetes the kerux]

Earthly father.


Remember, not everything is written down in the Bible.

Yes. Most of Hinn's prophecies have gone unfulfilled. So evidently, the Holy Spirit was not with him when he made those prophecies.

The unfulfilled prophecies are not what I am speaking of . . . it is the ones which are not only unfulfilled, BUT ALSO IMPOSSIBLE TO BE FULFILLED at this point.

I can speak a "yet to happen" and never give a time and it can remain unfulfilled for 100's of years . . . I am speaking of the ones that he gave time frames on . . .

AND the ones that are contrary to orthodoxy . . . like his heterodox concepts of Trinity.

 

[blessedmomof5]

True, but everything He wanted us to know in this life here on earth is written int the Bible. see i go by scripture, if it contradicts what the Bible says then it is NOT from God.
Thats why we have the Bible to test the spirits to know whether they are from God. OK clarification, not the only reason we have the Bible.....i would hve gotten slammed with that statement.lol
Remember, not everything is written down in the Bible.
Yes. Most of Hinn's prophecies have gone unfulfilled. So evidently, the Holy Spirit was not with him when he made those prophecies.[/quote]
to me the proof is in the pudding. I have met or heard many preachers like that, fortold prophecies, and they never came true, dates and all,the End was tomorrow they would shout, or God is not in the church anymore.......etc........... Yet people still get pulled into that trap.
Just be sure you test everything, and if you hve to ask, then there must be some doubt.
ok just one more thing and i cn be so wrong, but if you re filled with the Holy Spirit, is it a come and go kinda thing, or are you FILLED with the Holy Spirit,.........Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can you, except you abide in me.

If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done to you

 

[newsomewayne]

Yes, I am aware of this. His doctrine is not sound, but his healing is genuine.

Would you rather be hurt or broken on your way to Heaven, or healthy on your way to Hell?

 

[newsomewayne]

It's because the Holy Spirit comes upon him only during the healing. After the healing is accomplished, the Holy Spirit leaves him and he becomes a ordinary person again.

I'm hoping this is just a very bad metaphor. My Bible tells me that when we accept Christ as Savior, the Holy Spirit enters our heart as a permanant indwelling. Among other reasons, so that we don't become an ordinary person again.

John 14:15"If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Romans 8:9You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

 

[Monseigneur_Gentilhomme]

I'm hoping this is just a very bad metaphor. My Bible tells me that when we accept Christ as Savior, the Holy Spirit enters our heart as a permanant indwelling. Among other reasons, so that we don't become an ordinary person again.

John 14:15"If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Romans 8:9You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

How is that Biblical in anyways? The apostles were equiped with gifts of healing and were able to heal in most cases whever they wanted whomever they wanted. Benny Hinn has never preformed a miracle outside his own staged and controled areana and to date not one single person has been examined by a 3rd party doctor to verify if a healing has taken place.

 

[newsomewayne]

I agree.?. My point is, If Benny is a saved Christian, the Spirit would not "come and go", as the poster describes.

 

[Jpark]

Never mind.

 

[blessedmomof5]

Satan is able to do healings also toFOOL people into believing it is from God.
In the last days many will arise and do signs and great wonders
test everything!!!'
Amen And Glory to You oh Lord

 

[blessedmomof5]

Trust in the Bible, not man everything u need is in there

Ok. Apparently, he's a false prophet. But his healing is still of God.

My father told me Kathryn Kuhlman wanted the glory of God for herself. That is why God stopped using her. My father told me that the only reason why God is still using Benny Hinn is because He gives the glory to God.

When I was watching Hinn's show (I no longer watch TBN), Hinn said, "Jack Hayford said one thing to me that I’m so glad he said so I really thank him, he said do you know why we believe God is really with you, he said your longevity."

My father told me that usually, God uses a pastor for a few years and stops using him. But not Benny Hinn.

Since Hinn is obviously errant in his theology, why is he still being used by God to heal people? Why the longevity of his ministry? God surely knows that Hinn is interested about money.

I know I'm going to hell surely. You don't need to remind me.

1 Samuel 16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and a distressing spirit from the LORD troubled him.

Psalm 51:11 Do not cast me away from Your presence, and do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.

Luke 2:35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

If the Holy Spirit was with every Christian all the time (He is Omnipresent, yes, but He is not always with every person), then why are there denominations? Why is there sin? He did not remain with Mary permanently. If He did, she would be without sin. The Holy Spirit was with Jesus (Luke 5:17) from His conception to His death to His resurrection to eternity.

 

[newsomewayne]

I know I'm going to hell surely. You don't need to remind me.

I sincerely hope not.

In your quoted verses about the Holy Spirit leaving someone, could you find one post-Christ's ascension?

If the Holy Spirit was with every Christian all the time (He is Omnipresent, yes, but He is not always with every person), then why are there denominations? Why is there sin? He did not remain with Mary permanently. If He did, she would be without sin. The Holy Spirit was with Jesus (Luke 5:17) from His conception to His death to His resurrection to eternity.

Your presumptions are wrong, therefore so are your conclusions. The Holy Spirit is the Helper Jesus promised His followers after He left them. The Bible never says we would ever be without sin while here on Earth. Only that we would be judged as without sin upon our final judgement. To recieve the Holy Spirit is our personal evidence of our Salvation. To suggest the Holy Spirit ever leaves is to suggest our Salvation is conditional and/or it is possible to lose.

 

[Jpark]

Never mind.

 

[Nikich103]

cmon guys this is an old discussion... The FBI along with a senator investigated Benny Hinn... The healings are not real... its been proven a long time ago! Another way to find out whether he is legit is look at what he teaches... Does it match with Biblical teaching? He says people aren't healed by faith, God's love heals them... Is that what we find in scripture?

 

[Trial by Faith]

I frankly don't think there is any defense of Benny Hinn and those like unto him.

Watch this:
YouTube - Lying Evangelist Exposed!

 

[Jpark]

Never mind.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Satan is able to do healings also toFOOL people into believing it is from God.
In the last days many will arise and do signs and great wonders
test everything!!!'
Amen And Glory to You oh Lord

That's right.

What we need is to understand the difference between a counterfeit and the real thing, because where there is the presence of a counterfeit, there has to be the real thing existing somewhere. I posted a more comprehensive reply in another thread about this.

A counterfeit will be so close to the real thing that it will fool everyone else but an expert, and in the case of spiritual things, it may take a person with the gift of discerning of spirits to tell them apart.

My rule for determining the genuineness of a manifestation or a healing is that is it consistent with what has been described in Scripture, and in the case of a healing, is consistent with the way Jesus went about healing people. Also, the manifestation, if genuine, leads the person closer to Christ to put their full dependence on Him for their salvation and Christian life. A counterfeit will draw a person away from Christ to the manifestation and the person performing the healing.

The Holy Spirit's mission in the lives of believers is to draw attention to Christ and what He has done for us. The Holy Spirit Himself remains invisible, not drawing attention to Himself. Any ministry or manifestation that draws attention to itself more than to Christ, is counterfeit in my view. This is why God has allowed some prominent TV and Evangelistic ministries to fall into grievous sin, which have been made very public. Why is this so? God's purpose is to show that anything or anyone that exalts itself (or himself) above Christ, is not of Him, and their very failure to maintain a holy life is a proof of that. Those ministries, no matter how prominent, which continue to exalt Christ, will be preserved and kept holy to Him.

This is why I tend to be suspicious of ministries that have great big pictures of the preacher splashed all around the place, and present that preacher as having some special gift of healing, etc., that normal Christians don't have. I believe that the real powerhouse of healing is among the elders of the church praying for a church member as is outlined in James.

Jesus did not hold great healing meetings. He healed people on the street, in their homes, or as He was going from one place to another. His ministry was always one to one, and people were healed instantly without any hype or "preaching it up".

So, yes, we must test any manifestation by the rule of Scripture. We must always remember that what is seen is temporary, and what is not seen is eternal.