In all seriousness

[Skeptical]

1. If, in the distant future, humanity were to colonize the moon and perhaps Mars, and the rapture were to happen, would those living on distant planets and moons be raptured as well?

2. Would a human clone be raptured?

3. How about a cybernetic organism composed only of a human nervous system coupled to advanced life support systems?

 

[woobadooba]

1. If, in the distant future, humanity were to colonize the moon and perhaps Mars, and the rapture were to happen, would those living on distant planets and moons be raptured as well?

2. Would a human clone be raptured?

3. How about a cybernetic organism composed only of a human nervous system coupled to advanced life support systems?

Anyone who has a conscience will or won't be raptured.

As for life on other planets, the issue is irrelevant since the Bible only speaks to the inhabitants of this world, regarding the rapture.

 

[Skeptical]

Anyone who has a conscience will or won't be raptured.

As for life on other planets, the issue is irrelevant since the Bible only speaks to the inhabitants of this world, regarding the rapture.

So christian planet colonists living on say Mars will not be raptured?

 

[Davis]

I think the rapture will happen before we try and live somewhere else.

 

[woobadooba]

So christian planet colonists living on say Mars will not be raptured?

The rapture is a promise that has been given to those who belong to this world, not those who are of another world.


Let's look at it this way


Joe is an earthling, but decided to go live on mars. Yet, joe is also also a believer who knows that some day a rapture will take place. The rapture is a promise given to those who belong to this world(earth), therefore, Joe will be raptured because he believes in Jesus.

 

[Skeptical]

The rapture is a promise that has been given to those who belong to this world, not those who are of another world.

Let's look at it this way

Joe is an earthling, but decided to go live on mars. Yet, joe is also also a believer who knows that some day a rapture will take place. The rapture is a promise given to those who belong to this world(earth), therefore, Joe will be raptured because he believes in Jesus.

Whoa there! My only intention was to ask some questions. You know, decaffeinated coffee now comes in a variety of interesting blends.

 

[Whitestone]

The rapture is a promise that has been given to those who belong to this world, not those who are of another world.


Let's look at it this way


Joe is an earthling, but decided to go live on mars. Yet, joe is also also a believer who knows that some day a rapture will take place. The rapture is a promise given to those who belong to this world(earth), therefore, Joe will be raptured because he believes in Jesus.

As for who and where things get raptured, when Jesus comes to get us; all of His followers will be taken to Heaven. (even the ones on the moon)

As for the cloning issue, personnaly I do not think the Lord will let us create human clones, considering all the problems and mistakes they have when cloning animals, I think it would seem cruel to create a clone that did not have skin or would die before three months of life.

 

[Skeptical]

If you think that the OP is trying to defame Christianity or its' members don't have such an explove response it only proves them right. Not that I am saying this was the OP's intention.

As for who and where things get raptured, when Jesus comes to get us; all of His followers will be taken to Heaven. (even the ones on the moon)

As for the cloning issue, personnaly I do not think the Lord will let us create human clones, considering all the problems and mistakes they have when cloning animals, I think it would seem cruel to create a clone that did not have skin or would die before three months of life.

Just today on the BBC, it was announced that human cloning using genes obtained from two women has been approved in the UK.

 

[XfacTor]

On the clone issue...a bigger question would be "would clones have souls?" I don't know the answer to that. I'd guess they don't since they were manufactured in a lab instead of the natural means God provides. (i.e. sperm and an egg. cloning is way different than invitro fertilization) If they don't have souls, then they don't go to heaven. Christians will have a resurrected physical body, but only because we have souls.

As for Christians on other planets/the moon...if they belong to God, God will take them. He created the universe, the stars, the planets, Earth and all of it is under His control. As such, the moon is not beyond His grasp. The planets are not beyond His grasp. He's above ALL creation, including the universe. It's not like Jesus would come back and say, "hmmm...where's David? I can't see David. What? He's on the moon? Oh...well that's out of my jurisdiction."

 

[£amb]

1. If, in the distant future, humanity were to colonize the moon and perhaps Mars, and the rapture were to happen, would those living on distant planets and moons be raptured as well? A believer would be raptured even if they lived on Venus or Pluto.

2. Would a human clone be raptured? don't know

3. How about a cybernetic organism composed only of a human nervous system coupled to advanced life support systems? don't know

Not much help I know, but that's about it with my answers...

 

[sinner/SAVED]

I've been waiting for years for someone to tell me where in scripture I can find "rapture".

 

[woobadooba]

I've been waiting for years for someone to tell me where in scripture I can find "rapture".

You won't find the actual word in the English translation, but in the Greek you will find that to be "caught up" is to be raptured.

There are plenty of words that you won't find in the Bible, yet, the meaning of such words is present therein.

 

[Skeptical]

You won't find the actual word in the English translation, but in the Greek you will find that to be "caught up" is to be raptured.

There are plenty of words that you won't find in the Bible, yet, the meaning of such words is present therein.

So something is lost in translation?

 

[XfacTor]

So something is lost in translation?

lol... nice play on words.

 

[woobadooba]

So something is lost in translation?

The word "caught up" means the same thing as rapture.

Words may change, but the meaning is still the same.

There are many ways in which we can express the point that we want to convey without truncating the meaning of the thought.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

You won't find it in the English translation, but in the Greek you will find it.

There is no Greek word "rapture".

 

[woobadooba]

There is no Greek word "rapture".

Of course not! Rapture appears in symbols that are representative of the English language. In Greek, the symbols will obviously be different since it isn't English, although the meaning is present.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

"Rapture" in English means ecstasy.
"Caught up" does not necessarily mean ecstacy, but can depending on what you are "caught up" in.
"Rapture" as a word describing being "caught up" to heaven did not exist prior to the 1970's and is not present in scripture, Greek or English.

 

[Skeptical]

Of course not! Rapture appears in symbols that are representative of the English language. In Greek, the symbols will obviously be different since it isn't English, although the meaning is present.

So the Greek symbols are different from the English yet the English can carry the exact same meaning as the Greek?

 

[woobadooba]

"Rapture" in English means ecstasy.
"Caught up" does not necessarily mean ecstacy, but can depending on what you are "caught up" in.
"Rapture" as a word describing being "caught up" to heaven did not exist prior to the 1970's and is not present in scripture, Greek or English.

Actually, the word “rapture” comes from the Latin word rapturo, which is a translation of the Greek verb "caught up" that’s found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17.

You should know that it is best not to limit yourself to the usage of only one language to prove a point, especially since the NT was written in Greek.

And as I had mentioned already, the term rapture doesn't appear in the English, but the concept is present in the idiomatic expression "caught up"