In 2016

[Always in His Presence]

16 black lives don't matter.

Then you really don't understand, do you?

Nevermind BLM. Why hasn't the American Cancer Society or National Association of Optometrists come out against Chicago crime?

Non-sequitur.

Still a non-sequitur.
This is all beside the point.

I take this to mean you've moved away from your original argument and moved on to 'because they're horrible awful people and I hate them!'

Nobody knows what your topic is anymore. You moved the goalposts.

I moved the goals posts? Can you point to the posts that addresses the OP? Please?

 

[Always in His Presence]

The new topic is whether the poster is being insulted or not.

No, It is a direct response to the eighth time you addressed me personally instead of the topic of the thread.

 

[SummerMadness]

No, It is a direct response to the eighth time you addressed me personally instead of the topic of the thread.

Game. Blouses.

This thread has run its course, especially after continuously ignoring the eloquent posts by @GoldenBoy89 and @TLK Valentine.

 

[PeachyKeane]

lots Of mocking, lots of tongue in cheek insults, lots of deflection, not one bit of facts that change the narrative.

Question: what is your narrative?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Question: what is your narrative?

Let’s start with the OP.

 

[SummerMadness]

The OP incorrectly assumes organizations like Black Lives Matter only care about police killings. They also care about police misconduct.

Investigation of the Baltimore City Police Department
During pedestrian and vehicle stops, BPD officers regularly escalate encounters by conducting unlawful searches. This practice includes two types of conduct: (1) officers conducting weapons pat downs or “frisks” where they lack reasonable suspicion that a subject is armed and dangerous; and (2) pre-arrest strip searches in public areas. Both types of conduct result from systemic deficiencies in policy, training, and oversight.

Numerous Baltimore residents interviewed by the Justice Department recounted stories of BPD officers “jumping out” of police vehicles and strip-searching individuals on public streets. In one of these incidents— memorialized in a complaint that the Department sustained—officers in BPD’s Eastern District publicly strip-searched a woman following a routine traffic stop for a missing headlight. Officers ordered the woman to exit her vehicle, remove her clothes, and stand on the sidewalk to be searched. The woman asked the male officer in charge “I really gotta take all my clothes off?” The male officer replied “yeah” and ordered a female officer to strip search the woman. The female officer then put on purple latex gloves, pulled up the woman’s shirt and searched around her bra. Finding no weapons or contraband around the woman’s chest, the officer then pulled down the woman’s underwear and searched her anal cavity. This search again found no evidence of wrongdoing and the officers released the woman without charges. Indeed, the woman received only a repair order for her headlight. The search occurred in full view of the street, although the supervising male officer claimed he “turned away” and did not watch the woman disrobe. After the woman filed a complaint, BPD investigators corroborated the woman’s story with testimony from several witnesses and by recovering the female officer’s latex gloves from the search location. Officers conducted this highly invasive search despite lacking any indication that the woman had committed a criminal offense or possessed concealed contraband. The male officer who ordered the search received only a “simple reprimand” and an instruction that he could not serve as an officer in charge until he was “properly trained.”

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Such misconduct is not isolated, it is a widespread pattern seen in police departments across the country.

 

[PeachyKeane]

Let’s start with the OP.

BLM can focus on whatever they want to focus on. It doesn't mean that individuals within BLM don't care about violence in Chicago, but BLM itself is focused on unfair treatment by law enforcement and the justice system.

As was said before, it's not that the American Cancer Society doesn't care about those who die from heart and stroke, but they are focused on what they do.

It's like how you have started at least 2 threads about BLM in the past several days, but not a single one about the Alt-right or the KKK. It's not that you like white nationalism, but you just focus on BLM.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Let’s start with the OP.

The OP is flawed in that it assumes people don't care about murders because they don't have demonstrations like they do for the victims of police shootings.

 

[SummerMadness]

It's not just about shooting, it's about attacking people on their own property.

Investigation of the Baltimore City Police Department (not copyrighted)
In another incident, in 2010, two officers approached a group of individuals who were standing on a sidewalk in a residential neighborhood and “verbally warned this small crowd to disperse.” A juvenile, Brian, and his sister walked onto the steps of their home, remaining outside. When one of the officers approached Brian’s sister to “warn her about loitering,” she informed the officers, yelling and cursing, that she lived in the house. The officers did not appear to dispute her claim that she lived in the house. Their reports do not show that any effort was made to confirm whether it was her home. Nevertheless, the officers continued to “warn” her to leave and “cease causing a disturbance.” They eventually attempted to arrest her for “non-compliance.” One of the officers walked up the steps of the siblings’ stoop to attempt to make the arrest. Brian attempted to block the officer, and the officer began to “struggle” with the juvenile. According to civilian witness statements that are summarized in the Department’s reports, the officer punched Brian in the face. The officer also used oleoresin capsicum, or “OC” spray, against both siblings and arrested them for loitering, resisting arrest and assault on a police officer. All of the officer’s uses of force against the siblings, who were standing on or in front of their own property, were unreasonable. These individuals were placed into the criminal justice system for standing on their own steps.

There is also the issue of harassment.

 

[Belk]

Fighting cancer and standing up against drunk driving both of which kill millions and millions each year is a far cry from the sensationalism that BLM promotes. While “standing” up for those killed and hurt in police interactions they are virtually silent on a major cause of those deaths.

Instead, they scream vulgarities at politicians, call for the killing of police officers and destroy neighborhoods.



Correct, have you ever seen them do anything else?

Besides cuss at people, set fires, and call for the killings of police?

Was BLM formed for the purpose of bringing attention to the problems people of color run into in their interactions with police?

 

[KCfromNC]

It's like how you have started at least 2 threads about BLM in the past several days, but not a single one about the Alt-right or the KKK.

Or more fittingly, a thread which has resources to help people dedicated to stopping the black on black violence that is apparently such an important thing for others to worry about. It is almost as if that is just a rationalization for avoiding discussing the facts behind BLM's goals.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The OP incorrectly assumes organizations like Black Lives Matter only care about police killings. They also care about police misconduct.

The OP says exactly nothing about BLM.

BLM was introduced as a knee jerk reaction to the OP and then run over with cut and paste quotes

Here is the op

lets some comparison.

1. How many unjustified police shootings were there and how does it break down by race?

2. How many unjustified shooting were there based on same race. How does it break down by race?

Nope, no BLM mention.

 

[PeachyKeane]

The OP says exactly nothing about BLM.

BLM was introduced as a knee jerk reaction to the OP and then run over with cut and paste quotes

Here is the op



Nope, no BLM mention.

Great. Guess we're done here then.

 

[SummerMadness]

The OP says exactly nothing about BLM.

BLM was introduced as a knee jerk reaction to the OP and then run over with cut and paste quotes

Here is the op

Nope, no BLM mention.

You really should read your own posts...

The group commanding national attention is addressing 16 deaths a year and ingnoring thousands of others.

Black Lives Matter, only to police deaths, so it seems. Are you having a hard time understanding that?

 

[Always in His Presence]

OP. OPENING POST

Not post 54.

Try again.

 

[PeachyKeane]

OP. OPENING POST

So nothing else you've said in the thread matters? We're starting over?

Okay. Looking at the OP.

So what?

 

[SummerMadness]

So nothing else you've said in the thread matters? We're starting over?

Okay. Looking at the OP.

So what?

Do you hear that patter of feet? It's the sound of someone moving the goalposts.

 

[PeachyKeane]

Do you hear that patter of feet? It's the sound of someone moving the goalposts.

I'm not sure he's figured out where he wants to put them.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Do you hear that patter of feet? It's the sound of someone moving the goalposts.

I'm not sure he's figured out where he wants to put them.

just can't do it? OK, four request and all i get is snide remarks

 

[PeachyKeane]

just can't do it? OK, four request and all i get is snide remarks

Did you make a request in the OP?

What would you like this thread to accomplish?