In 2016

[Always in His Presence]

lets some comparison.

1. How many unjustified police shootings were there and how does it break down by race?

2. How many unjustified shooting were there based on same race. How does it break down by race?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Newsweek 1/4/2017 puts the total at 16 unarmed black killed during police interactions. No mention if they were fighting the police or not.

That would be 16 out of 30,000,000.

 

[KCfromNC]

lets some comparison.

1. How many unjustified police shootings were there and how does it break down by race?

2. How many unjustified shooting were there based on same race. How does it break down by race?

The existence of threads like these at least answers the question from other threads about "why are those thugs disrespecting the flag - what do they hope to accomplish?"

 

[cow451]

Newsweek 1/4/2017 puts the total at 16 unarmed black killed during police interactions. No mention if they were fighting the police or not.

That would be 16 out of 30,000,000.

Resisting arrest and related crimes, like using unkind language to an officer and riding in the back of a police van are not capital offenses.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The existence of threads like these at least answer the question from other threads about "why are those thugs disrespecting the flag - what do they hope to accomplish?"

16 out of 30,000,000

That is .00000053 of the total population.

 

[Hank77]

Newsweek 1/4/2017 puts the total at 16 unarmed black killed during police interactions. No mention if they were fighting the police or not.

That would be 16 out of 30,000,000.

NOT arguing, just a more detailed data data.
Police shootings 2016 database

48 confirmed unarmed. Passing the cursor over the individual headings gives details.

 

[Belk]

16 out of 30,000,000

That is .00000053 of the total population.

Well, I guess it is OK if we are only killing a few people.

 

[cow451]

Well, I guess it is OK if we are only killing a few people.

I mean, more people get killed by natural causes and you don’t see demonstrations about that.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Well, I guess it is OK if we are only killing a few people.

How can you say something like that?! Every life is precious.

 

[SummerMadness]

Investigation of the Baltimore City Police Department (p. 32-33)
During pedestrian and vehicle stops, BPD officers regularly escalate encounters by conducting unlawful searches. This practice includes two types of conduct: (1) officers conducting weapons pat downs or “frisks” where they lack reasonable suspicion that a subject is armed and dangerous; and (2) pre-arrest strip searches in public areas. Both types of conduct result from systemic deficiencies in policy, training, and oversight.

Numerous Baltimore residents interviewed by the Justice Department recounted stories of BPD officers “jumping out” of police vehicles and strip-searching individuals on public streets. In one of these incidents— memorialized in a complaint that the Department sustained—officers in BPD’s Eastern District publicly strip-searched a woman following a routine traffic stop for a missing headlight. Officers ordered the woman to exit her vehicle, remove her clothes, and stand on the sidewalk to be searched. The woman asked the male officer in charge “I really gotta take all my clothes off?” The male officer replied “yeah” and ordered a female officer to strip search the woman. The female officer then put on purple latex gloves, pulled up the woman’s shirt and searched around her bra. Finding no weapons or contraband around the woman’s chest, the officer then pulled down the woman’s underwear and searched her anal cavity. This search again found no evidence of wrongdoing and the officers released the woman without charges. Indeed, the woman received only a repair order for her headlight. The search occurred in full view of the street, although the supervising male officer claimed he “turned away” and did not watch the woman disrobe. After the woman filed a complaint, BPD investigators corroborated the woman’s story with testimony from several witnesses and by recovering the female officer’s latex gloves from the search location. Officers conducted this highly invasive search despite lacking any indication that the woman had committed a criminal offense or possessed concealed contraband. The male officer who ordered the search received only a “simple reprimand” and an instruction that he could not serve as an officer in charge until he was “properly trained.”​

 

[SummerMadness]

Investigation of the Baltimore City Police Department (p. 29-30)
On a cold January evening in 2013, an officer approached and questioned an African-American man crossing the street in a “high crime area” while wearing a hooded sweatshirt. The officer lacked any specific reason to believe the man was engaged in criminal activity, but, according to the incident report prepared by the supervisory officer on the scene, the officer “thought it could be possible that the individual could be out seeking a victim of opportunity.” This unsupported speculation furnishes no basis to conduct a stop. Nonetheless, multiple officers questioned the man and seized a kitchen knife that the man acknowledged carrying. When the man asked the officers to return his knife, the officers ordered the man to sit down and then forced him to the ground when the man “persisted to ask for his knife.” The man yelled “you can’t arrest me” and resisted his detention. Although there was no basis to detain the man, two officers attempted to handcuff and shackle him, while one officer struck him “in the face, ribs, and back” with fists. The man continued to resist being shackled as additional officers arrived, one of whom tased the man twice to prevent him from “escap[ing] the scene.” After officers handcuffed the man, they transported him to Union Memorial Hospital for medical care. The man was not charged with any offense. The sergeant who responded to the scene confirmed that the involved officers tased the man twice and hit him in the face with their fists, yet the sergeant’s report of the incident concluded that the “officers showed great restraint and professionalism.”

 

[SummerMadness]

Investigation of the Chicago Police Department (p. 36)
Evidence suggests that the pattern of unreasonable use of force identified by our investigation may be even broader than that revealed through CPD documents alone. During our investigation, we reviewed numerous use-of-force incidents captured on video. In many of these incidents, the use of force was facially unreasonable and the videos undercut the officers’ descriptions of the incidents. Given the large volume of reported incidents not captured on video, this suggests that the extent of unreasonable force by CPD officers may be larger than is possible to discern from CPD’s scant force reports and force investigations alone. Indeed, the inaccurate descriptions of events that were undercut by video we reviewed bore striking similarities to descriptions provided by officers in numerous cases with no video.

In one incident captured on cell-phone video, an officer breaking up a party approached a man, grabbed him by the shirt, and hit him in the head with a baton. In his reports, the officer, using language very similar to that used in many other reports we reviewed, falsely claimed that the victim had tried to punch him. Before the video surfaced, the officer’s supervisor had approved the use of force and the victim had pled guilty to resisting arrest. The officer has since been relieved of his police powers and is facing criminal charges for his conduct. In another video, a woman exited her car and placed her hands on her vehicle when officers threw her to the ground, hit her, and deployed a Taser against her. The video indicates that the officer’s claim that she had refused to show her hands, thus justifying the force used, was false. Despite the existence of the video, IPRA deemed the force reasonable.

 

[SummerMadness]

Investigation of the Seattle Police Department (p. 13)
One recent incident illustrates the problem. Four officers were dispatched to a house to investigate a stabbing at a party and, upon searching the house, located a man lying face down in bed with his arm under a pillow. The man was asleep after having had too much to drink. The man was 49 years old, 5’3” tall, 130 pounds, and did not speak English as a first language. After the man failed to comply with orders to show his hands, officers reached the conclusion that the man was dangerous because his arm was out of view and tried to arrest him.

As officers made contact with the man, he began to kick at the officers while lying on his back. Officers cited this resistance as reasonable cause to use force. The four officers used excessive force as follows: one officer delivered five to seven punches to the man’s face; a second officer struck the man three to four times in the head with a closed fist; a third officer struck the man three times with his knee to the side of his body; and a fourth officer struck the man multiple times with a flashlight to his midsection. The use of force by four officers on one unarmed man of relatively slight stature is excessive. The incoherent state of the subject is further illustrated by the fact that when officers took the man to the precinct for booking, he said that someone had beaten him up and thanked the SPD officer for saving him. Given his inebriated slumber, it is not clear from reports whether the man heard the officers. Officers clearly have good reason to require suspects to show their hands. Officer and public safety can be put at risk by hidden weapons. But force used to gain compliance must be gauged to the level of risk and the ultimate goal of determining whether weapons are present. Here, such an assessment did not occur.

 

[SummerMadness]

Investigation of the Cleveland Division of Police (p. 20)
CDP officers also use less lethal force on people who are handcuffed or otherwise subdued and pose little or no threat to officers. This practice contravenes well-settled law. See Champion v. Outlook Nashville, Inc., 380 F.3d 893, 902 (6th Cir. 2004) (The Sixth Circuit has “consistently held that various types of force applied after the subduing of a suspect are unreasonable and a violation of a clearly established right.”). One egregious incident in which officers resorted to an excessive amount of force, mentioned briefly in the Background section of this letter, occurred in January 2011. On the day in question, officers apprehended Edward Henderson after he fled from the police in a vehicle, leading officers on a chase that lasted about six minutes. Mr. Henderson then pulled over, exited his van, and sat on a highway guardrail. When CDP officers approached, Mr. Henderson walked into a group of trees. As one officer approached with his service weapon drawn, Mr. Henderson responded to commands to lay prone on the ground and spread his arms and legs. Infrared video from a CDP helicopter involved in the pursuit shows numerous officers approaching Mr. Henderson, including one with a gun drawn. The helicopter officer comments, “Looks like they got the male in custody.” After Mr. Henderson was restrained, prone on his stomach, officers began kicking Mr. Henderson, and other officers appear to be striking him as well. Mr. Henderson was subsequently brought to the hospital with a broken orbital bone. The force officers used in this incident against an unarmed man, prone on the ground and surrounded by CDP officers, was unnecessary and excessive.

 

[SummerMadness]

Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department (p. 18-19)
While the record demonstrates a pattern of stops that are improper from the beginning, it also exposes encounters that start as constitutionally defensible but quickly cross the line. For example, in the summer of 2012, an officer detained a 32-year-old African-American man who was sitting in his car cooling off after playing basketball. The officer arguably had grounds to stop and question the man, since his windows appeared more deeply tinted than permitted under Ferguson’s code. Without cause, the officer went on to accuse the man of being a pedophile, prohibit the man from using his cell phone, order the man out of his car for a pat-down despite having no reason to believe he was armed, and ask to search his car. When the man refused, citing his constitutional rights, the officer reportedly pointed a gun at his head, and arrested him. The officer charged the man with eight different counts, including making a false declaration for initially providing the short form of his first name (e.g., “Mike” instead of “Michael”) and an address that, although legitimate, differed from the one on his license. The officer also charged the man both with having an expired operator’s license, and with having no operator’s license in possession. The man told us he lost his job as a contractor with the federal government as a result of the charges.

 

[PeachyKeane]

lets some comparison.

1. How many unjustified police shootings were there and how does it break down by race?

2. How many unjustified shooting were there based on same race. How does it break down by race?

It's okay for you to say that you don't understand why people are upset about this.

 

[SummerMadness]

It's okay for you to say that you don't understand why people are upset about this.

It's also okay to say you never read any of the DOJ reports that give a detailed view of the misconduct, mismanagement, violence and corruption seen in police departments across the country. What's not okay is to ask facetious questions, then argue as if there is no problem because you refuse to read the numerous studies and DOJ reports that show there is a problem.

 

[Belk]

How can you say something like that?! Every life is precious.

the definition of satire

 

[PeachyKeane]

16 out of 30,000,000

That is .00000053 of the total population.

16 black lives don't matter.

 

[Always in His Presence]

It's okay for you to say that you don't understand why people are upset about this.

Thank you, but I do in fact understand why people are upset about it - and to an extent agree with them - I however do not understand why no one - nadda - zip doodily are upset over events causing more deaths of the African American population in a week than all the police forces in all the US cities combined over a year.

I can never understand that.

16 black lives don't matter.

900 black lives don't matter?