Impreccable proof for the Biblical Flood

[Nathan Poe]

Doesn't God do a good enough job getting us to disbelieve the Bible? You know, by setting up the evidence to look like he was lying? And how we should be ashamed of ourselves for checking?

Nah, we have His followers for that -- we know God by His fruits.

 

[dad]

Nah, we have His followers for that -- we know God by His fruits.

Oh?? And what might those be?

 

[AV1611VET]

If Satan can compete with God, one could argue he's just as powerful.

Not even close.

Satan can't preserve his words like God can; this is why we get one 'better translation' after another, and they roll off the presses like syrup.

If God is so much more powerful than Satan, why is it that Satan is 1) capable of making something that can compete with God's Word and 2) allowed to by God?

1. He can't. A true believer can spot the difference a mile away. And one of the biggest differences is what is called a 'copyright'.

2. That is God's prerogative. He is sovereign, and He has ordained that we are to let the tares grow among the wheat until He, Himself, comes back and reaps the harvest.

Especially when God knows some will be legitimately deceived by no fault of their own because it is not their fault the ribbon is on every tree now, is it?

Yes, actually, it is their fault. We are the watchmen declaring the enemy, and for those who refuse to acknowledge that, it is not our fault, but theirs. As I have pointed out before, the rich man in Luke 16 was a very religious man, even calling Abraham, 'Father Abraham'; but when he wound up in Hell, it is not recorded that he asked Abraham 'why' he was there. Instead [twice] he begs Abraham to 'send someone' to warn others.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't need Satan to disbelieve the bible. For even if god showed up in my face today and proved himself to be real and told me the bible was his inerrant word, I would not worship him.

The god of the bible is sadistic and evil, I'd rather chill with Satan for all eternity, as he actually had the gall to stand up to the ruthless dictator.

And that is exactly the attitude that will prevail at the end of the Tribulation.

Revelation 16:11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Not even close.

Satan can't preserve his words like God can; this is why we get one 'better translation' after another, and they roll off the presses like syrup.

Ah, so Satan is responsible for Bible translations other than KJV? What happens to Christians who read those versions and not KJV?

1. He can't. A true believer can spot the difference a mile away. And one of the biggest differences is what is called a 'copyright'.

When in doubt, say that you need faith. Classic AV. "Creationism has no evidence and evolution is clearly correct, what's the deal, AV"? "Just have faith. If you were a true believer you wouldn't have this problem."

2. That is God's prerogative. He is sovereign, and He has ordained that we are to let the tares grow among the wheat until He, Himself, comes back and reaps the harvest.

Ah, another Classic AV: "because God felt like it." "Why is there no evidence for the flood, AV?" "Because God felt like it."

Yes, actually, it is their fault. We are the watchmen declaring the enemy, and for those who refuse to acknowledge that, it is not our fault, but theirs. As I have pointed out before, the rich man in Luke 16 was a very religious man, even calling Abraham, 'Father Abraham'; but when he wound up in Hell, it is not recorded that he asked Abraham 'why' he was there. Instead [twice] he begs Abraham to 'send someone' to warn others.

Another Classic AV point! "I'm right, and everyone else is wrong. If you guys listened to me you wouldn't go to hell."

AV, I'm surprised you have friends, given the isolation your theology must give you. It sure will be lonely in heaven if you're right, and empty of people who can think for themselves.

 

[Tomatoman]

Satan can't preserve his words like God can; this is why we get one 'better translation' after another, and they roll off the presses like syrup.

How do you know you are reading god's rewrites and not satan's?

1. He can't. A true believer can spot the difference a mile away. And one of the biggest differences is what is called a 'copyright'.

How do you know that you can trust your judgement. You are, after all, just a fallible human, nothing more.

2. That is God's prerogative. He is sovereign, and He has ordained that we are to let the tares grow among the wheat until He, Himself, comes back and reaps the harvest.

How do you know that your beliefs aren't 'tares'?

Yes, actually, it is their fault. We are the watchmen declaring the enemy, and for those who refuse to acknowledge that, it is not our fault, but theirs. As I have pointed out before, the rich man in Luke 16 was a very religious man, even calling Abraham, 'Father Abraham'; but when he wound up in Hell, it is not recorded that he asked Abraham 'why' he was there. Instead [twice] he begs Abraham to 'send someone' to warn others.

How do you know you aren't unwittingly heading to hell. After all, most of your most obvious personality traits: vanity, ego, pride, self-importance etc are not very godly.

And that you can say with a staright face, "Yes, actually, it is their fault. We are the watchmen declaring the enemy, and for those who refuse to acknowledge that, it is not our fault, but theirs." is a bit eyebrow raising. Ask yourself if that statement reminds you more of a follower Jesus or of a nazi. Seriously. Read your statement several times out loud and it starts to sound rather familiar, doesn't it?

 

[AV1611VET]

I always get annoyed when I make a point, and it gets buried in a ton of questions; but then when I read concluding remarks like these:

AV, I'm surprised you have friends, given the isolation your theology must give you. It sure will be lonely in heaven if you're right, and empty of people who can think for themselves.

Ask yourself if that statement reminds you more of a follower Jesus or of a nazi. Seriously. Read your statement several times out loud and it starts to sound rather familiar, doesn't it?

... it makes me feel better that I'm not going to respond.

 

[Tomatoman]

I always get annoyed when I make a point, and it gets buried in a ton of questions; but then when I read concluding remarks like these:

Yes, having one's nonsense questioned must be very annoying. How dare anyone rip my nonsense to shreds. Don't they realise that I'm posting nonsense for god?

... it makes me feel better that I'm not going to respond.

So much easier than having to defend nonsense.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

I always get annoyed when I make a point, and it gets buried in a ton of questions; but then when I read concluding remarks like these:


... it makes me feel better that I'm not going to respond.

Hey man, you're the one telling me that I will suffer for eternity because I don't agree with you. The worst I said is that you're mean.

 

[Belk]

I always get annoyed when I make a point, and it gets buried in a ton of questions; but then when I read concluding remarks like these:


... it makes me feel better that I'm not going to respond.

If there was ever an indication that you are not dealing with reality it is that you think you have actually made valid points in this discussion.