Important interpretation? : does having been a monkey, help all future "evolutions" in a monkey way?

[Bungle_Bear]

Once again say something is not evidence, is there any evidence to support the post or is there not, if there is evidence please provide it.

One example. They openly admit they lied.

 

[disciple Clint]

One example. They openly admit they lied.

How reliable is that source??????????

 

[Shemjaza]

Once again say something is not evidence, is there any evidence to support the post or is there not, if there is evidence please provide it.

Ever hears about the "cdesign proponentsists"

 

[SelfSim]

One example. They openly admit they lied.

Crooks!

 

[disciple Clint]

Ever hears about the "cdesign proponentsists"

is that supposed to be evidence or simply a derogatory term used by some evolutionists?

 

[Shemjaza]

is that supposed to be evidence or simply a derogatory term used by some evolutionists?

Both actually.

A Creationist publication was republished as a part of the Intelligent Design movements attempt to rebrand to continue to have the ability to promote religious teachings in secular environments despite constitutional issues.

See also the Wedge strategy.

 

[Larniavc]

Slavery in the Bible was often a good thing. It was like a kind of 'social security'.

In what ‘social security’ is the recipient allowed to be beaten to death as long as they do not die the same day?

Have you even read the Bible?

 

[Larniavc]

Do you honestly think he's lying?

I think ‘so convinced that they are right that they remain resistant to reality’ is more accurate.

I’ve been in that position many times.

 

[Larniavc]

It's intolerant, and fosters ill-feelings.

To be far, so do religions.

 

[AV1611VET]

To be far, so do religions.

False religions do.

 

[SkovandOfMitzae]

Slavery was never a good thing. There is a lot of work done by abolitionists and people like Esau Mccaulley in “ Reading While Black “ and by hosts and guests of podcasts like Jude3 Project. Pete Enns also tackles it several times.

just because regulations are developed around something does not mean it’s part of Yahweh’s plans or intentions.

take divorce. Good hates it and it was not supposed to happen but because of the hardness of human hearts he permits it. There are a bunch of examples that lets us know God hates slavery and that it’s not part of his desires for mankind. We can see this corrected all through Jesus who sets everyone free and in restored heaven and earth there is no mention of slavery as part of the system.

 

[AV1611VET]

Good hates it and it was not supposed to happen but because of the hardness of human hearts he permits it. There are a bunch of examples that lets us know God hates slavery and that it’s not part of his desires for mankind. We can see this corrected all through Jesus who sets everyone free and in restored heaven and earth there is no mention of slavery as part of the system.

What do you think, when you see people bring up the fact that, if we're Bible-believers, we should:

1. Be marching off to liberate Jerusalem from the gentiles (the Crusades).
2. Burning, stoning, or hanging witches (Salem witch trials)
3. Owning slaves.

QV this QED: Post 13

 

[SkovandOfMitzae]

What do you think, when you see people bring up the fact that, if we're Bible-believers, we should:

1. Be marching off to liberate Jerusalem from the gentiles (the Crusades).
2. Burning, stoning, or hanging witches (Salem witch trials)
3. Owning slaves.

QV this QED: Post 13

I point out that those people obviously have not read the Bible very well. Then direct them towards a few podcasts such as , The Language of God by Biologos, The Bible for Normal People by Pete Enns and The Bible Project by Tim Mackie.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

How reliable is that source??????????

If you search elsewhere for feedback on the documentary you'll find the same thing repeated. It's unfortunate that these people consider "lying for Jesus" to be justified, but that should tell you a lot about how poor their argument is. If you have a strong argument you don't need to resort to that kind of behaviour. It's the last resort of somebody who actually has no argument in the first place.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Once again say something is not evidence, is there any evidence to support the post or is there not, if there is evidence please provide it.

Finding material that is exclusively about CMI (or primarily) turned out to be more difficult than I'd originally considered. (The terms "creation" and "lie" are just too common and correlated.) CMI is also a bit more obscure.

I will keep you in mind if I do come across a specific example, but I have seen CMI specifically lie in the past.

 

[AV1611VET]

I point out that those people obviously have not read the Bible very well. Then direct them towards a few podcasts such as , The Language of God by Biologos, The Bible for Normal People by Pete Enns and The Bible Project by Tim Mackie.

If those people don't read the Bible -- (or don't read It very well) -- why would you point them to three podcasts about the Bible?

Are those podcasts some kind of Cliff's Notes or something?

 

[AV1611VET]

If you search elsewhere for feedback on the documentary you'll find the same thing repeated. It's unfortunate that these people consider "lying for Jesus" to be justified, but that should tell you a lot about how poor their argument is. If you have a strong argument you don't need to resort to that kind of behaviour. It's the last resort of somebody who actually has no argument in the first place.

Give me a break.

I could say Jesus walked on water and be accused of "lying for Jesus."

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Give me a break.

I could say Jesus walked on water and be accused of "lying for Jesus."

I doubt that very much.

 

[SkovandOfMitzae]

If those people don't read the Bible -- (or don't read It very well) -- why would you point them to three podcasts about the Bible?

Are those podcasts some kind of Cliff's Notes or something?

why would I not send someone to podcasts by biblical scholars who have not studied the Bible very well?

 

[Shemjaza]

Give me a break.

I could say Jesus walked on water and be accused of "lying for Jesus."

No, but if you said you had scientifically verified evidence for it you would be.