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Impersonation of Attributes - Genesis 1:26

"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over... the whole earth."

The above passage of Genesis has been for years the trump card in the hands of Trinitarians to drop at the right time in the assuming thought that it will
guarantee them to clean up the table, so to speak. Well, let them think again, because I have news. It's no longer that easy.

Elohim is incorporeal, and incorporeality reflects no image. But then again, how to harmonize the use of the pronouns in the plural form? The attributes of God, which are part of His essence, were impersonated in the formation of man.

Bear in mind that only in the creation of man was the statement issued: To make man at God's image. Since God has no visible image, and man does, it's only obvious that man's image would be according to God's attributes. Therefore, His attributes in a relative portion, were the active agent in the formation of man.

Now, it's imperative to focus on the pronouns used by the sacred writer, since the pronouns are anyways what Trinitarians use to think they have made their day. "Let US make MAN in OUR image and likeness. And let THEM have dominion over everything on earth."

Now, focus on the word MAN. It is in the singular form. Nevertheless, the purpose is for THEM to dominate the earth. If THEM were a reference to man, a clarification would be in order to explain the discrepancy in the Grammar. I mean, that it would be a reference to all men. This lack of clarification was not a lapse of the author, but intentional will to direct our minds to the attributes of God, which took part in the formation of man.

It's interesting and just convenient for Trinitarians to rapidly refer "us" and "our" to God Himself and hide any word of explanation on the plural pronoun "them," which could not be a reference to man. I hope they do not do this on purpose because it would be spiritual cruelty to hide the truth.

I hope we have settled this issue. Since "them" is not a reference to man but to the attributes of God, it's only obvious that "us" and "our" are not
references to God Himself but to His attributes. Therefore, the Creator of the Universe is He Who has dominion over the whole of the Universe through man by way of His attributes.

Conclusion:

It's more than obvious that Israel could not uphold the banner of absolute Monotheism in God, and start the Scriptures with statements of plurality in God. The whole issue therefore, was impersonation of God's attributes.
 
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So you believe that God is invisible to his heavenly angels as well?
Also, where do you derive the idea that God has no body?

Who are the angels in the Kingdom of God? Aren't they His own People Israel
if you read Exodus 19:5,6? And if God had any body He could no longer be known as of an absolute Oneness, and He would be composed of atoms and, atoms differ in the body of any person. And I could no longer prove the existence of an eternal God to an atheist.
 
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Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "deity" in Biblical Hebrew. In Modern Hebrew, it is often referred to in the singular despite the -im ending that denotes plural masculine nouns in Hebrew.[1][2]
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Elohim is a term in the plural not of the subject but of the object. As the subject is of an absolute Oneness aka HaShem Himself, the object must be in the plural to illustrate the expansion of God's Kingdom.
 
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Elohim is a term in the plural not of the subject but of the object. As the subject is of an absolute Oneness aka HaShem Himself, the object must be in the plural to illustrate the expansion of God's Kingdom.

Not according to grammer,or context or what God's Word says without twisting it.
 
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I acknowledge that there are other applications of the term "Elohim" but, every time the reference is to HaShem, Elohim is of an absolute Oneness.

You are confused,and completely out of the context of Genesis.
HaShem is the reference to what God's name is,without saying God's Name.
What you are confused about is the use of HaShem, in grammer it is a Aptronym.
HaShem is a descriptive name as a replacement for the real name.
You simply cannot apply private interpretation to God's Word,and justify it by pulling out of thin air names for God.

The Word is clear God said let us make man in our image,you changed the use of God to Elohim.
You learned Elohim is a plural name,so you invented another term to support your fallacy.
 
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I acknowledge that there are other applications of the term "Elohim" but, every time the reference is to HaShem, Elohim is of an absolute Oneness.

As well by teaching against God being Father Son,and Holy Spirit you are in violation of this fourms rules.
 
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As well by teaching against God being Father Son,and Holy Spirit you are in violation of this fourms rules.

Tell me, can you learn any thing from the chit-chattering of common beliefs?
I don't think so. It is rather too boring to listen to views of the same kind as yours. Learning comes only as a result of controversy. You might be too proud to reconsider opposite views but, you will somehow think about them.
 
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You are confused,and completely out of the context of Genesis. HaShem is the reference to what God's name is,without saying God's Name. What you are confused about is the use of HaShem, in grammer it is a Aptronym. HaShem is a descriptive name as a replacement for the real name. You simply cannot apply private interpretation to God's Word,and justify it by pulling out of thin air names for God. The Word is clear God said let us make man in our image,you changed the use of God to Elohim. You learned Elohim is a plural name, so you invented another term to support your fallacy.

If your problem with me is with regards to my using of HaShem to prevent the use of any of the names attributed to God, no problem, I'll use Adonai.
It is very natural here in Israel to use, "Baruch HaShem" which means praise
the Lord!. I can do that for you but, I can't believe the Christian doctrine of the Trinity because, I grew up with the truth that Adonai is of an absolute Oneness.
 
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the Lord!. I can do that for you but, I can't believe the Christian doctrine of the Trinity because, I grew up with the truth that Adonai is of an absolute Oneness.

You grew up wrong, were taught wrong, and you're in the wrong forum for your false teaching. You need to read the statement of faith for this forum and the forum rules. The Holy Trinity is a basic Bible FACT. You're not going to convert any Christians here.
 
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If your problem with me is with regards to my using of HaShem to prevent the use of any of the names attributed to God, no problem, I'll use Adonai.
It is very natural here in Israel to use, "Baruch HaShem" which means praise
the Lord!. I can do that for you but, I can't believe the Christian doctrine of the Trinity because, I grew up with the truth that Adonai is of an absolute Oneness.

I agree with Tom,and any further debate is contributing to your disregard of Fourm rules.
 
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Tell me, can you learn any thing from the chit-chattering of common beliefs?
I don't think so. It is rather too boring to listen to views of the same kind as yours. Learning comes only as a result of controversy. You might be too proud to reconsider opposite views but, you will somehow think about them.
Pride has nothing to do with this. The moderators who created this forum have the prerogative to decide what the rules are and what constitutes a violation of said rules. If you don't agree with these rules, fine, but don't get upset when someone calls you out on breaking them.
 
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Pride has nothing to do with this. The moderators who created this forum have the prerogative to decide what the rules are and what constitutes a violation of said rules. If you don't agree with these rules, fine, but don't get upset when someone calls you out on breaking them.

As well there is a instruction thread at the beginning of every Thread along with Fourm rules.
 
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