Immigration Myths and Global Realities

[W2L]

@Herbert'sHoover

Sure we should not be encouraging law breaking. But who here is free from being a lawbreaker? Thats what im saying. Our voice should be the voice of scripture. If i were extending the Gospel to you, would you listen if i deported you? How would you hear if i deported you?

 

[Herbert'sHoover]

What weakness is that?

Your ability to be emotionally manipulated by those smarter and more sinister than yourself.

 

[W2L]

Then we should deport you as well, since you are so flippant with American security.

I have faith in God. My only political goal is to share the gospel with sinners.

 

[W2L]

Your ability to be emotionally manipulated by those smarter and more sinister than yourself.

Who are they?

 

[Herbert'sHoover]

I have faith in God. My only political goal is to share the gospel with sinners.

Then go them. That's what the big J did, anyway.

 

[W2L]

Then go them. That's what the big J did, anyway.

I am, im suggesting we stop fearing them and instead let them see the light shine through us. We are supposed to let our light shine. Im suggesting that we let our voice shine via the internet. Maybe many of them will see and want to be part of the kingdom. Thats what im preaching, the Kingdom, not america.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I don't think God is pleased by your using faith as a crutch for weakness.

Unlikely, since supporting weakness with faith is one of the prominent themes of the NT. Pride and earthly strength are typically handled with some level of condemnation.

Your ability to be emotionally manipulated by those smarter and more sinister than yourself.

lolololololol

 

[Redac]

Read "native population" as white and the meaning of this post makes sense.

The population was around 85-90% white until a few decades ago, so yeah, that's the one being replaced.

 

[jazzflower92]

Then go them. That's what the big J did, anyway.

You are doing the same thing you accuse him of doing. Your fear is unbiblical.

 

[SummerMadness]

The population was around 85-90% white until a few decades ago, so yeah, that's the one being replaced.

Well, they're not getting replaced, that's not how it works. If the room has only 10 white people in the room and 10 non-white people enter the room, no one has been replaced, it's simply that the population is no longer 100% white. I understand you're not saying this, but a change in demographics due to immigration and/or lower birthrates is not an example of being "replaced." That is simply something the racists have told themselves to drum up fear over changing demographics. Let's not feed their delusions.

 

[Redac]

Well, they're not getting replaced, that's not how it works. If the room has only 10 white people in the room and 10 non-white people enter the room, no one has been replaced, it's simply that the population is no longer 100% white. I understand you're not saying this, but a change in demographics due to immigration and/or lower birthrates is not an example of being "replaced." That is simply something the racists have told themselves to drum up fear over changing demographics. Let's not feed their delusions.

You're quibbling over the exact term being used to describe what's happening. If 10 other people move into your family's home and in so doing end up outnumbering you and preventing you from maintaining much control over what used to be, well, yours, then the fact that "replacement" may not be the most accurate description of the situation doesn't mean a whole lot.

All that being said, it recently came out that white deaths now outnumber white births in the majority of states, and I think in the US overall as well. So although it's not going to happen in ten or twenty or even a hundred years, for better or for worse, the white population is slowly being replaced.

 

[jazzflower92]

You're quibbling over the exact term being used to describe what's happening. If 10 other people move into your family's home and in so doing end up outnumbering you and preventing you from maintaining much control over what used to be, well, yours, then the fact that "replacement" may not be the most accurate description of the situation doesn't mean a whole lot.

All that being said, it recently came out that white deaths now outnumber white births in the majority of states, and I think in the US overall as well. So although it's not going to happen in ten or twenty or even a hundred years, for better or for worse, the white population is slowly being replaced.

This obsession over feeling replaced is unbiblically healthy. We shouldn't give into the power of fear.

 

[jazzflower92]

You're quibbling over the exact term being used to describe what's happening. If 10 other people move into your family's home and in so doing end up outnumbering you and preventing you from maintaining much control over what used to be, well, yours, then the fact that "replacement" may not be the most accurate description of the situation doesn't mean a whole lot.

All that being said, it recently came out that white deaths now outnumber white births in the majority of states, and I think in the US overall as well. So although it's not going to happen in ten or twenty or even a hundred years, for better or for worse, the white population is slowly being replaced.

This obsession over feeling replaced is unbiblically healthy. We shouldn't give into the power of fear.

 

[SummerMadness]

You're quibbling over the exact term being used to describe what's happening. If 10 other people move into your family's home and in so doing end up outnumbering you and preventing you from maintaining much control over what used to be, well, yours, then the fact that "replacement" may not be the most accurate description of the situation doesn't mean a whole lot.

All that being said, it recently came out that white deaths now outnumber white births in the majority of states, and I think in the US overall as well. So although it's not going to happen in ten or twenty or even a hundred years, for better or for worse, the white population is slowly being replaced.

Well, this is not your house, it is everyone's house. No one is being replaced, demographics change. And if the complaint is the loss of power and privilege because other groups have more representation, then it's quite evident what the real issue is about maintaining white supremacy at any cost.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Well, they're not getting replaced, that's not how it works. If the room has only 10 white people in the room and 10 non-white people enter the room, no one has been replaced, it's simply that the population is no longer 100% white. I understand you're not saying this, but a change in demographics due to immigration and/or lower birthrates is not an example of being "replaced." That is simply something the racists have told themselves to drum up fear over changing demographics. Let's not feed their delusions.

This doesn't make much sense...

Practically every complaint that leftists, sjws, feminists, minorities, and other such groups have these days is about being underrepresented in many different ways. They get angry at the Oscars when there's not "enough" black people winning awards. Feminists get angry with being underrepresented in upper management positions. Practically every minority is upset when their politicians are white and male. It could be the topic of college admissions, or households above the poverty line, and so on and so on....

Yet when a white man expresses concern over any of the same things....suddenly they're a racist, bigoted, misogynist who's supposed to stay quiet.

Is the expectation that white men should be cool with losing jobs, pay, wealth, and political representation simply because they're white?

It's a serious question...because the left seems to think all these things are super important, but if you're a straight white man you should be ok with letting it all go until everyone else is happy.

 

[Redac]

Well, this is not your house, it is everyone's house.

So does any place belong to any specific people? Or is everywhere open for everyone?

No one is being replaced, demographics change.

Sick assertion, bro. Lemme try: Native Americans weren't replaced in North America, the demographics just changed.

See how stupid that sounds?

And if the complaint is the loss of power and privilege because other groups have more representation, then it's quite evident what the real issue is about maintaining white supremacy at any cost.

Every group competes for power and influence in any given system, and plenty of different groups of people seek to have their own spaces where they can run things for themselves, so why is it only inherently immoral if white people do it?

 

[jazzflower92]

So does any place belong to any specific people? Or is everywhere open for everyone?


Sick assertion, bro. Lemme try: Native Americans weren't replaced in North America, the demographics just changed.

See how stupid that sounds?


Every group competes for power and influence in any given system, and plenty of different groups of people seek to have their own spaces where they can run things for themselves, so why is it only inherently immoral if white people do it?

That is nativism, which is toxic.

 

[Redac]

That is nativism, which is toxic.

Why?

 

[SummerMadness]

So does any place belong to any specific people? Or is everywhere open for everyone?

Arguing that immigration should be halted or changed due to the skin color of immigrants is simply racism. The country is not meant to be owned by a particular race of people. Somehow a nation of immigrants has become a nation of white immigrants only. The main problem here is not the nativist argument being foisted, it's the denial of racism. It's like the KKK member passing out fliers and becoming offended when you tell him his organization is racist.

Sick assertion, bro. Lemme try: Native Americans weren't replaced in North America, the demographics just changed.

See how stupid that sounds?

Genocide is not the same thing as immigration, that's why your statement sounds stupid.

Every group competes for power and influence in any given system, and plenty of different groups of people seek to have their own spaces where they can run things for themselves, so why is it only inherently immoral if white people do it?

Racism is a learned behavior, there is nothing inherent or natural about racism. Trying to use the natural argument to justify racism and xenophobia is where the lack of morality lies.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Yet when a white man expresses concern over any of the same things....suddenly they're a racist, bigoted, misogynist who's supposed to stay quiet.

Is the expectation that white men should be cool with losing jobs, pay, wealth, and political representation simply because they're white?

It's a serious question...because the left seems to think all these things are super important, but if you're a straight white man you should be ok with letting it all go until everyone else is happy.

If the diminished status is a result of the loss of an unearned boost fueled by a discriminatory bias, then yes, they should be okay with it.