Illegal migrant charged in Michigan woman’s killing was deported under Trump but snuck back in: ICE

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“He was ordered removed by an immigration judge with the Justice Department’s Executive Office of Immigration Review Sept. 24, 2020, and was removed to Mexico Sept. 29, 2020,” the immigration rep said.
“At an unknown date and location Ortiz-Vite reentered the United States without inspection by an immigration official.”
Ortiz-Vite has now been charged with felony murder, open murder, carjacking, carrying a concealed weapon, and felony use of a firearm after Garcia’s bullet-riddled body was found on US 131 in Grand Rapids, Michigan, around 11:40 p.m. Friday.

Border policies have consequences.
 

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Border policies have consequences.
Sounds like the Trump administration should have prosecuted him for his outstanding warrants instead of just shipping him to Mexico.
 
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“He was ordered removed by an immigration judge with the Justice Department’s Executive Office of Immigration Review Sept. 24, 2020, and was removed to Mexico Sept. 29, 2020,” the immigration rep said.
“At an unknown date and location Ortiz-Vite reentered the United States without inspection by an immigration official.”
Ortiz-Vite has now been charged with felony murder, open murder, carjacking, carrying a concealed weapon, and felony use of a firearm after Garcia’s bullet-riddled body was found on US 131 in Grand Rapids, Michigan, around 11:40 p.m. Friday.

Border policies have consequences.
September 24th, 2020 puts this case squarely in the Trump Administration’s “Title-42” window.
Under that version, immigrants were “expelled” (not “deported”) and could “try their luck” on another day.

On the upside, you are totally correct that border policies have consequences.
 
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Sounds like the Trump administration should have prosecuted him for his outstanding warrants instead of just shipping him to Mexico.
Oh yeah, and how long would have he stayed in jail on the warrant? Days? A month? Then he gets shipped out and comes back anyway. Trump was trying to shut the boarder down.

A Biden isn't.

Quite frankly there are too many of these stories. Biden and the Democrats are only partially to blame because the Republicans haven't done much either. Trump at least was making an effort.
 
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September 24th, 2020 puts this case squarely in the Trump Administration’s “Title-42” window.
Under that version, immigrants were “expelled” (not “deported”) and could “try their luck” on another day.
You are kidding right? This has been going on for decades. Trump was the only president that was making an attempt and the Democrats fought him the entire way. The Republicans weren't much better.
 
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More than 100 undocumented immigrants worked at Trump’s Bedminster resort during construction: report​

Those weren’t regular undocumented immigrants, they were/are Donald’s immigrants.
 
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Those weren’t regular undocumented immigrants, they were/are Donald’s immigrants.
It demonstrates that Donald never had an issue with hiring undocumented immigrants because it helped his bottom line. Very hypocritical, but that is where we are today. Donald doesn't want illegals here unless they are working for him. Donald is for law and order unless it is he who is breaking the law and causing disorder.
 
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What is the point of this thread?

We already know that deported illegal immigrants who are deported often re-enter the US illegally. It has been hapening across all adminstrations.
It is a promotion of what Donald did then and now under Biden the person came back. This is an apparent attempt to show us what has happened in the past compared to now, like how the unemployment rate Donald left the White House with was 6.3%, and today it is 3.9%
 
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September 24th, 2020 puts this case squarely in the Trump Administration’s “Title-42” window.
Under that version, immigrants were “expelled” (not “deported”) and could “try their luck” on another day.

On the upside, you are totally correct that order policies have consequences.
Yes, those policies have consequences and we are seeing those consequences today. Joe even secretly flew in people that were not properly vetted, all the while lying to the American public that the border was safe, secure, and closed. He is providing illegals with more privileges than American citizens, using taxpayer money. Don't you think Joe should have to pay out of his own pocket for the secret flights and victims of his policies?
 
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Yes, those policies have consequences and we are seeing those consequences today. Joe even secretly flew in people that were not properly vetted, all the while lying to the American public that the border was safe, secure, and closed. He is providing illegals with more privileges than American citizens, using taxpayer money. Don't you think Joe should have to pay out of his own pocket for the secret flights and victims of his policies?
Ortize-Vite was an asylum seeker? That wasn't in the article you posted.
 
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Trump was trying to shut the boarder down.
If he was, it's odd that he ordered republicans to stop Biden's bill calling for more Border Patrol and more courts to more quickly deport such people.
A Biden isn't.
If Biden had his way, there would be more people guarding our borders and criminals would be more swiftly removed. That's what Biden's bill called for. And the Border Patrol union backed him, knowing it would work.
Quite frankly there are too many of these stories.
If one was frank, one would point out that illegal aliens are much more law-abiding than native-born Americans. That's why El Paso, with one of the largest populations of illegal aliens, is one of the safest cities in the United States. Would you like me to show you the data, again?

Biden and the Democrats are only partially to blame because the Republicans haven't done much either. Trump at least was making an effort.
Trump's efforts managed to stop Biden's move to reinforce the Border Patrol and to more quickly remove people with criminal records. If crime matters to you, you should be disgusted with Trump's efforts.
 
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Yes, those policies have consequences and we are seeing those consequences today. Joe even secretly flew in people that were not properly vetted, all the while lying to the American public that the border was safe, secure, and closed. He is providing illegals with more privileges than American citizens, using taxpayer money. Don't you think Joe should have to pay out of his own pocket for the secret flights and victims of his policies?

What privileges?

What is the point of this thread?

We already know that deported illegal immigrants who are deported often re-enter the US illegally. It has been hapening across all adminstrations.
 
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What is the point of this thread?

We already know that deported illegal immigrants who are deported often re-enter the US illegally. It has been hapening across all adminstrations.
Crime has been happening for thousands of years. But enabling it is another story.
 
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Crime has been happening for thousands of years. But enabling it is another story.
It's not surprising that Trump enabled crime. After all, he's been found guilty of sexual assault, and has numerous criminal indictments.
 
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Biden had his way, there would be more people guarding our borders and criminals would be more swiftly removed. That's what Biden's bill called for. And the Border Patrol union backed him, knowing it would work.
We all know that the orders would be to allow everyone in with a stamp of approval. It takes a long time to go through the asylum process. So they would see a judge get their approval to get in and maybe another court date for later. Instead of them all be illegal they would be legal to be here with appearance dates and then disappear. If they were adjudicated immediately then I would have no issue with that, buy thats not how the process works.
one was frank, one would point out that illegal aliens are much more law-abiding than native-born Americans. That's why El Paso, with one of the largest populations of illegal aliens, is one of the safest cities in the United States. Would you like me to show you the data, again?
If we know all those illegals exist then why aren't they be arrested and deported? You have no idea how many there are. And 100% of them have broken the law. So no they aren't law-abiding. We are not allowed to ask people if they are illegal when they are charged with something, so we have no idea how many other crimes they have committed. The only reason some of these becomes news is due to something really horrible that has happened and LE digs into them and finds out they are illegal. But they don't do that with other crimes such as theft or vandalism or even DUI as long as no one was killed or severely injured.
 
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We all know that the orders would be to allow everyone in with a stamp of approval.
Nope. Here's why...
It takes a long time to go through the asylum process.
Biden also asked for more removal courts to deport the criminals faster. It's not just more enforcement; it's faster processing. You see why Trump so desperately wanted to block that from happening?

If they were adjudicated immediately then I would have no issue with that
Trump did. For reasons we all understand.
, buy thats not how the process works.
Not under Trump. But it would have been so under Biden, if the radical right hadn't blocked more enforcement and faster adjudication.
 
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