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Having watched the video, (some didn't I suppose), the illegal alien in question proposes to help illegal aliens to remain here illegally while getting benefits from the government. She's dangerous and should be returned to Peru ASAP

Hyperbole. She is NOT dangerous. What she seeks to do is illegal, yes, but not dangerous.
 
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Which would make one an accessory to a crime by the way
If while helping people she was risking prosecution by the state that would make her an even better good Samaritan. Willing to put herself in harms way to help others who are poor and looking for a better life. Sounds like something Jesus would do.
 
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If while helping people she was risking prosecution by the state that would make her an even better good Samaritan. Willing to put herself in harms way to help others. Sounds like something Jesus would do.

Be careful with that. A guy might rob a bank with the intent of donating that money to charity.

It's still robbing a bank, and it's still a crime. It doesn't make the guy a samaritan, and it doesn't make this woman one either.
 
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Be careful with that. A guy might rob a bank with the intent of donating that money to charity.
Ok, I'll make sure not to support someone in their attempt to rob a bank. If a person is fleeing poverty and/or violence to provide for themselves and their family and their only "crime" is walking past a line on a map then I will help them. A slippery slope argument won't change my mind there.
 
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Ok, I'll make sure not to support someone in their attempt to rob a bank. If a person is fleeing poverty and/or violence to provide for themselves and their family and their only "crime" is walking past a line on a map then I will help them. A slippery slope argument won't change my mind there.

Yeah, bugger those rules and laws! Who needs 'em anyway?
 
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Yeah, bugger those rules and laws! Who needs 'em anyway?
laws are nice. Necessary even. I respect actual people even more than I do laws though. Do you think if an undocumented migrant came to Jesus starving he would refuse to give the person food or go look through the law book to see if it's ok first ? How about his or her children? Would it be bad to help them too?
 
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laws are nice. Necessary even. I respect actual people even more than I do laws though. Do you think if an undocumented migrant came to Jesus starving he would refuse to give the person food or go look through the law book to see if it's ok first ? How about his or her children? Would it be bad to help them too?
Romans 13- Obey the laws of the government.
 
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Romans 13- Obey the laws of the government.
And... ? Are you implying he wouldn't feed a starving child because Paul wrote that in Romans?

What if the law of government demands that you worship Satan? I hardly think Paul was meaning to be absolute with that. When I was a Christian I was taught that you follow the laws to the best of your ability but if they force you do something un-Christian like watching someone starve rather than giving them some food , sacrifice your kids to baal, turn Jews into the Gestapo, etc.. you might have to take part in some non violent civil disobedience.
 
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What about them?

If while helping people she was risking prosecution by the state that would make her an even better good Samaritan. Willing to put herself in harms way to help others who are poor and looking for a better life. Sounds like something Jesus would do.
My reading of the parable about the Good Samaritan does not detect anywhere that the Good Samaritan broke the law :wave:
 
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My reading of the parable about the Good Samaritan does not detect anywhere that the Good Samaritan broke the law
Not sure what that has to do with anything. Unless maybe you are implying that he wouldn't have helped him if he had walked across the border without checking in with the Romans first ?
 
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Not sure what that has to do with anything. Unless maybe you are implying that he wouldn't have helped him if he had walked across the border without checking in with the Romans first ?
The pont is that the situation with this illegal alien and the Good Samaritan are not comparable. The Good Samaritan came to the aid of a victim. This illegal alien wants to aid the perps
 
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The pont is that the situation with this illegal alien and the Good Samaritan are not comparable. The Good Samaritan came to the aid of a victim. This illegal alien wants to aid the perps
In your opinion would Jesus refuse to help a person bleeding out on the side of the road simply because they didn't follow proper border crossing protocol at some point in the past? If a child was starving would Jesus demand that they go back to the border and check in with the Romans before he gave him some life saving food?
 
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In your opinion would Jesus refuse to help a person bleeding out on the side of the road simply because they didn't follow proper border crossing protocol at some point in the past? If a child was starving would Jesus demand that they go back to the border and check in with the Romans before he gave him some life saving food?
That's not even close to comparable to the point at hand
 
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laws are nice. Necessary even. I respect actual people even more than I do laws though. Do you think if an undocumented migrant came to Jesus starving he would refuse to give the person food or go look through the law book to see if it's ok first ? How about his or her children? Would it be bad to help them too?

I think He would help them, and then help them become legal citizens. But he's certainly not going to help them continue to break the law.

That's dangerous. She's dangerous and belong in Peru

Just stop it already. You take a good argument and poison it when you start talking like this.

While I believe taking advantage of what our great country offers without following the correct steps is illegal and criminal, it is not a dangerous crime, nor is it one that we can't assist with.

The law should be a curb, not a freaking brick wall.
 
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I think He would help them, and then help them become legal citizens. But he's certainly not going to help them continue to break the law.



Just stop it already. You take a good argument and poison it when you start talking like this.

While I believe taking advantage of what our great country offers without following the correct steps is illegal and criminal, it is not a dangerous crime, nor is it one that we can't assist with.

The law should be a curb, not a freaking brick wall.
Her goal is to help people defeat the system while breaking the law. that makes her quite dangerous. Let her defeat the laws of Peru, in Peru.
 
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In all this talk about what Jesus would do regarding illegals, does anyone recall Jesus' parting words to the woman at the well? Something like, "Go and sin no more."

Now if breaking the law is a sinful act, as communicated in Romans, then wouldn't these illegal aliens be required to leave the country if they were to sin no more since continued illegal occupation would be considered continuing in sin?
 
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Her goal is to help people defeat the system while breaking the law. that makes her quite dangerous. Let her defeat the laws of Peru, in Peru.

Exactly how does it make her "dangerous"? You keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you want it to mean.
 
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