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This means that an illegal immigrant can get access to your personal information...

Social Security #
Birth Date
Address
Phone Number
Full Name
and a bunch of personal information that would allow someone to steal you identity.

So? Why would an illegal immigrant care about your personal information any more than a legitimate citizen in the same position?
 
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So? Why would an illegal immigrant care about your personal information any more than a legitimate citizen in the same position?
It's called identity theft. Illegal aliens often steal ID's in order to get work
 
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Of course. But why would she be any more of a threat for that than anyone else?
She's motivated. She clearly said in the video that she wants to help other illegal aliens. that's what makes her dangerous
 
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MachZer0 said:
She's motivated. She clearly said in the video that she wants to help other illegal aliens. that's what makes her dangerous

But again, how is she more dangerous then a legal resident that wants to help illegal aliens?

Also, how do you know that her desire to help illegal aliens involves nefarious means? What if she just wants to help them gain legal citizenship through the proper channels?
 
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But again, how is she more dangerous then a legal resident that wants to help illegal aliens?
She may not be, but we certainly know she's more dangerous than most citizens based on her own confession

Also, how do you know that her desire to help illegal aliens involves nefarious means? What if she just wants to help them gain legal citizenship through the proper channels?
She's here under nefarious means and does not feel obligated to do the right thing, but rather she wants to flout the law
 
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She may not be, but we certainly know she's more dangerous than most citizens based on her own confession

So she may not be, but you know that she is?

She's here under nefarious means and does not feel obligated to do the right thing, but rather she wants to flout the law

Even if I were to grant that she's here under nefarious means, that does not mean she will employ nefarious means during the course of her work.
 
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So she may not be, but you know that she is?



Even if I were to grant that she's here under nefarious means, that does not mean she will employ nefarious means during the course of her work.
She said as much in her video
 
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Wow, helping undocumented migrants that sounds like an evil conspiracy if I ever heard one.

Depends on how they're being helped.

I think that anyone who helps someone else break the law is a criminal themselves. But if someone is helping another person avoid breaking the law, it's a different matter.
 
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Illegal aliens :wave:

Which would make one an accessory to a crime by the way

This is wrong on at least two levels:

First, as far as I know illegal immigration is not a crime. If it were, we would incarcerate undocumented immigrants.

Second, helping someone who happens to have broken the law, or even committed a crime does not make one an accessory to the crime. If that's all it took to be an accessory than lawyers, substance abuse counselors, judges, probation agents, correction officers, police, and many others would be accessories to crime as a result of their employment.
 
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This is wrong on at least two levels:

First, as far as I know illegal immigration is not a crime. If it were, we would incarcerate undocumented immigrants.

Second, helping someone who happens to have broken the law, or even committed a crime does not make one an accessory to the crime. If that's all it took to be an accessory than lawyers, substance abuse counselors, judges, probation agents, correction officers, police, and many others would be accessories to crime as a result of their employment.
The statute on illegal immigration, linked here earlier, carries penalties of fines, imprisonment or both. :wave:
 
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The statute on illegal immigration, linked here earlier, carries penalties of fines, imprisonment or both. :wave:

Okay, now as to the other half of my post, are you seriously arguing that anyone who provides any service or help (such as medical staff who visit migrant camps, immigration attorneys who help them to secure legal documentation, etc.) to any person who happens to be an undocumented alien is an accessory to a crime?
 
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Okay, now as to the other half of my post, are you seriously arguing that anyone who provides any service or help (such as medical staff who visit migrant camps, immigration attorneys who help them to secure legal documentation, etc.) to any person who happens to be an undocumented alien is an accessory to a crime?
Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):
A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:
* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or
* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/AidAbetUnlawfulSec8USC1324.html
 
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Okay, now as to the other half of my post, are you seriously arguing that anyone who provides any service or help (such as medical staff who visit migrant camps, immigration attorneys who help them to secure legal documentation, etc.) to any person who happens to be an undocumented alien is an accessory to a crime?
Having watched the video, (some didn't I suppose), the illegal alien in question proposes to help illegal aliens to remain here illegally while getting benefits from the government. She's dangerous and should be returned to Peru ASAP
 
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