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I'll give this a try..

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Can you explain emotional S&M to me, or link me to a site that does?

Emotional sadomasochism is a term used for people who enjoy emotional suffering.

For example, some people enjoy being emotionally humiliated and insulted by a woman. Likewise this same individual can enjoy humiliating and insulting the same woman.

Playful teasing is a light form of emotional S&M. Something that you can see in many relationships. It's even viewed as something cute by many people.

Other like myself, can get large amounts of emotional S&M from religion. People like me tend to drift to the fire and brimstone versions of religion. Because deep down we enjoy the emotional guilt and pain that can come from feeling like a worthless sinner, and the fear that one might wind up in hell. This is generally the darkest form of emotional S&M, and something many in the BDSM community denounce and try to warn others about.

Some people are more sensitive to emotional S&M than others. While some are content with mild forms of emotional S&M, others need the harder stuff. I view it like alcohol. Most people are moderate drinkers, while a few people are unfortunately prone to alcoholism.

I hope this post helps you understand the term a little better. Even in the BDSM community some people still don't know what emotional S&M is. I myself haven't heard of the term until 2010. Even though I've been a strong one all my life. It really is nice to have a term that adequately explains a lot of my behaviors and interests. :)
 
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Emotional sadomasochism is a term used for people who enjoy emotional suffering.

Can a person actually enjoy a masochistic behavior and honestly say that they want to be treated in the same way? I hardly doubt it. I find a deeper struggle that prides itself in how much it has endured and is very very porud, a hidden secret that stems from an 'Im better than you' mentality. Like a, 'I want to be a macho man, in secret' complex. Priding itself into thinking they are superior.
 
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Can a person actually enjoy a masochistic behavior and honestly say that they want to be treated in the same way? I hardly doubt it. I find a deeper struggle that prides itself in how much it has endured and is very very porud, a hidden secret that stems from an 'Im better than you' mentality. Like a, 'I want to be a macho man, in secret' complex. Priding itself into thinking they are superior.

Elitism exists in all subcultures, and is definitely present in the S&M subculture.

In many S&M circles there is a tendency of people to show off how sadomasochistic they are. There is even bullying and intimidation to be more and more extreme.

I find myself to possess some of these negative traits, and I am trying to stop them. There was a period in my life where I hated the idea of any type of love in a relationship, and thought I should eradicate as much of it out of my life as possible. I've since learned that such thought patterns are unhealthy.

No, the enjoyment of masochism is much more than someone simply enjoying the pride that comes along with taking the pain. The reasons people enjoy masochism are numerous and diverse. Many enjoy it "just because", anything else is just an added bonus.

Most of my life I wasn't even aware that I was an emotional [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], so I never even thought to take pride in it. Many more people find their desires shameful, much less something to have pride in.
 
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Perhaps grossly personal, yet the idea of harming others for joy and rejecting the same suffering seems ignorant.

What? Why is it ignorant? If you're engaging in S&M, it better be consensual. If someone only likes the sadist role, that's their business. I don't see how that makes them ignorant, or hypocritical or whatever you're talking about.
 
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What? Why is it ignorant? If you're engaging in S&M, it better be consensual. If someone only likes the sadist role, that's their business. I don't see how that makes them ignorant, or hypocritical or whatever you're talking about.


Treating others the way you would'nt want to be treated is either normal or very abnormal.
 
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Is it possible that a lot of people are into emotional S&M, at different levels, and they don't realize it? Like, women who say they want a "nice guy" but always date jerks who mistreat them. Some people just seem to be more comfortable with emotional distress.
 
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Is it possible that a lot of people are into emotional S&M, at different levels, and they don't realize it? Like, women who say they want a "nice guy" but always date jerks who mistreat them. Some people just seem to be more comfortable with emotional distress.

I apologize for the late reply..

I do believe that many women are attracted to jerks because they like the abuse. Many women openly admit this on the emotional S&M forum I attend. Despite what others say, these attractions are very real. Sadly I have faced heat for voicing these opinions. People assumed I was saying this stuff to justify the abuse of women. While on the contrary I was saing this to wake women up about dangerous mindsets. Men fall victim to this too, but on the whole I see this happening to women much more. Perhaps its cultural, perhaps it's genetic or a mix of both, I don't know.

Just because a woman happens to like the abuse doesn't mean the guy is off the hook. If I were a judge I'd send the woman to a mental hospital and give the guy the harshest sentence possible. Despite what some people think about me, I don't have any desire to actually abuse women, and hate men who do. I like masochistic women, I like it when they enjoy it, if they don't enjoy it, the fun is gone for me.
 
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Like, women who say they want a "nice guy" but always date jerks who mistreat them. Some people just seem to be more comfortable with emotional distress.

I can understand that. I find it true that 100% of all non-nice women want non-nice guys. And the same is true for the opposite. Nice women prefer nice guys 100% of the time.
 
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Have you ever tried to fly an airplane?

Do you like candy corn?

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Have I ever tried to fly an airplane? No. Considering the fact that I am afraid to fly in a plane as a passenger, the likely hood of taking the time to fly a plane myself is highly unlikely.

Do I like candy corn? Honestly I haven't had candy corn since 5th grade. From what I can remember I liked it, although the candy became nasty fairly quickly. It's one of those things you can only eat in small amounts.

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? I have no idea, lol. Science was never my strong subject.
 
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I can understand that. I find it true that 100% of all non-nice women want non-nice guys. And the same is true for the opposite. Nice women prefer nice guys 100% of the time.

I wouldn't say that is true at all. There are many nice women who unfortunately fall for bad men. While I can understand how it's frustrating for men who treat women decently, it doesn't make her a bad person. She just needs a little therapy and compassion. Really though, at some point masochism does become a mental illness.
 
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