If you think that Noah's flood was global and wish to wager on it,

[tonychanyt]

I am taking wagers here.

This OP is NOT about whether Noah's flood was global or not. I'm assuming you think that it was. This post is about wagering on what you believe.

Let proposition P1 = Noah's flood was global.
P2 = Noah's flood was not global but regional.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions? The stronger your belief in a proposition, the higher the weight.

Are you willing to wager based on your weighting scheme?

This is not a lotto/gambling bet. This is a bet to scientifically measure the strength of your belief. Put your money where your mouth is. I am interested in finding out the strength of your belief mathematically. See Subjective (Bayesian) Probability.

You can say that the moon is made of cheese. Words are cheap unless you are willing to bet on it.

 

[PloverWing]

My wager is:
P1: 0
P2: 1
P3: 9

where P3 = "The story of Noah is a fictional story intended to illustrate a spiritual point about God taking care of God's people in times of disaster."

 

[tonychanyt]

My wager is:
P1: 0
P2: 1
P3: 9

where P3 = "The story of Noah is a fictional story intended to illustrate a spiritual point about God taking care of God's people in times of disaster."

OK. I'll take P1 and P2.

Are you willing to wager based on your weighting scheme/odds?

 

[Laodicean60]

I'll put in my 2 cents worth. P2 10

 

[tonychanyt]

I'll put in my 2 cents worth. P2 10

2 cents is too cheap. It cheapens your belief in P2

In fact, in Canada, we no longer circulate hard pennies

 

[PloverWing]

OK. I'll take P1 and P2.

Are you willing to wager based on your weighting scheme/odds?

If it really has to be P1 or P2...

P1 is definitely 0.
But I could bet a dollar on P2. P2 is possible.

 

[PloverWing]

I've reread the title of the thread. If you intend to limit the question to people who think the Noah story is probably the story of a global, historical flood, then I'll step away and stop interfering with the experiment.

 

[brakelite]

If you believe the flood was only regional, care to explain the existence of sea shells on mountains? What regions are you suggesting were subject to flooding, and what caused the flood? If you don't believe in the flood story as being global, what other biblical stories are you willing to toss aside, and why? I'm not taking any bets. Just asking questions.

 

[Ceallaigh]

If you believe the flood was only regional, care to explain the existence of sea shells on mountains?

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Genesis 1:2

This seems to make it pretty clear that before Noah's flood, the Earth was covered in deep water. Perhaps for a really long time.

 

[Bobber]

I am taking wagers here.

Ha. Taking wagers uh? Put your money where your mouth is? I know with all this you're kind of kidding but it reminds me of the devil saying if you are the Son of God you shouldn't be afraid to jump off the temple.....Come on now! Do it!

Think I'll stay off wagering WHICH DOES NOT mean I'm afraid. There's no need to do anything other than let my yes be yes (I believe this or the other) or no I don't.

I believe the flood of Noah though WAS GLOBAL. I'll just stick with that. I say P1 and I'll give it a 10. Oh...so maybe I just wagered? I don't know.

 

[Vambram]

My wager is P1 = 10

Based upon the Scriptures, as well as geological evidence, I have no doubts that the Great Flood in Genesis chapter 6 was a global flood. However, I would still believe that with a wager of 10 even IF there was not any geological evidence for this belief.

 

[AV1611VET]

Let proposition P1 = Noah's flood was global.
P2 = Noah's flood was not global but regional.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions? The stronger your belief in a proposition, the higher the weight.

I put 10 on P1.

Are you willing to wager based on your weighting scheme?

No.

This is not a lotto/gambling bet. This is a bet to scientifically measure the strength of your belief.

If it's science calling the shots, I would lose the bet.

Where science disagrees with the Bible, science is wrong.

But they'll make it look like they are right, and so I would lose the bet in a court of public opinion.

Science can chisel data to make it dovetail into other scientific disciplines and call it "consensus".

So I'd be stupid to bet against them on their turf.

Put your money where your mouth is. I am interested in finding out the strength of your belief mathematically.

My belief is a 10.

Science can make it look like a -10 though.

You can say that the moon is made of cheese. Words are cheap unless you are willing to bet on it.

Here's a post I made some years back:

I was once asked here what I would believe if the Bible said the moon was made of green cheese.

Would I stick with green cheese, or would I go with what scientists said?

I said I would go with what scientists said, but scientists would need to change their conception of what green cheese is.

 

[AV1611VET]

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Genesis 1:2

Genesis 1:2b And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Any helicopter pilot knows the difference between "hovered" and "moved."

(Just saying.)

This seems to make it pretty clear that before Noah's flood, the Earth was covered in deep water. Perhaps for a really long time.

Three days, to be exact.

Genesis 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

 

[brakelite]

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Genesis 1:2

This seems to make it pretty clear that before Noah's flood, the Earth was covered in deep water. Perhaps for a really long time.

I agree. But that doesn't explain the existence of shellfish on mountains... Shellfish that were a part of creation after the sea and the land were divided.

 

[tonychanyt]

If it really has to be P1 or P2...

No. In fact, you are welcome to take P3.

 

[tonychanyt]

I know with all this you're kind of kidding

Actually, I am not.

 

[tonychanyt]

If it's science calling the shots, I would lose the bet.

No. God will call the shots. God will decide the outcome of the bet.

 

[Laodicean60]

No. God will call the shots. God will decide the outcome of the bet.

I need an explanation for this one. But I can't wait for your answer. I'll give you one US dollar.

 

[tonychanyt]

I need an explanation for this one. But I can't wait for your answer. I'll give you one US dollar.

Proceed with the bet. Then you will see.

Let proposition P1 = Noah's flood was global.
P2 = Noah's flood was not global but regional.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions? The stronger your belief in a proposition, the higher the weight.

 

[Ceallaigh]

Genesis 1:2b And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Any helicopter pilot knows the difference between "hovered" and "moved."

(Just saying.)

?

Three days, to be exact.

Genesis 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

What about before then?