If You Refuse Vaccine And Bracelet You Go To A "camp"

[Mackdaddy Suave]

I wasn't aware this was a debate or theological thread, I thought it was a current events thread, havening to do with whats going on in the new and the world unless I completly missed something, and where in the Bible does it say to mock and be jerks to your fellow Christians? I would like to know that....or is that just another conspiracy theory? I was under the impression this was Christians only, and as Christians I didn't think we were supposed to act this way or treat eachother this way? So mock and make sny remarks and be jerks all you want Im not sure I care.
Guess in the Title I should have put intresting site, what do you think, but then again I wasn't expecting this sort of behavior from adults.

If I have offended you, I apologise.

My point is that news is stuff that is happening, or has been confirmed to be happening in the future by reputable news broadcasters based on statements made by those involved. What happens then is that we discuss whether the news is good or bad, based on our opinion of what is happening.

However, when something as serious as what you posted has not been picked up by reputable news broadcasters anywhere in the world, it is not news but an unverified claim. So we need to discuss whether this claim is true or not before discussing out feelings towards it.

To be clear, I wasn't mocking you, I was mocking people who believe the story that you posted.

 

[synger]

.. self-deleted due to snark. *really needs a cup of coffee before reading this stuff*

 

[brinny]

it's news. it is what it is. take what you will from it. if you find it so unbelievable, don't read it. yet you did read it. no one forced you to.

 

[byhisstripes]

If I have offended you, I apologise.

My point is that news is stuff that is happening, or has been confirmed to be happening in the future by reputable news broadcasters based on statements made by those involved. What happens then is that we discuss whether the news is good or bad, based on our opinion of what is happening.

However, when something as serious as what you posted has not been picked up by reputable news broadcasters anywhere in the world, it is not news but an unverified claim. So we need to discuss whether this claim is true or not before discussing out feelings towards it.

To be clear, I wasn't mocking you, I was mocking people who believe the story that you posted.

Thank you for your appoligy, I guess what I was doing was not posting as absolute fact but as a story that I had found that they are disscussing unless I completly missunderstood the whole thing. I just felt mocked, not nessecaly by you alone, but attacked and turned into a joke. Thanks again, I don't mind opinion, but the opinions were put out in a very rude manor. Thanks again for the appology and disscussion is good . Im also sorry for my rude combacks because they too were not neccesary, and not Christian like either. So sorry too

 

[Hearts Alive]

vaccinations should never be forced.

i think we lost our country a long time ago. we just didn't know it.

NO ONE has to take any unvoluntary medical procedures, cite your religious/moral right to refuse( alot of vaccines are made with fetus tissues) or your medical right to refuse( those with terminal illnesses or illnesses that you might die from the vaccine( flu vaccines give you the flu, so your body becomes immune to it, surely there are elderly with issues that the flu virus would kill) know your rights good people !! REFUSE, RESIST, UNITE, PERSIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Texas Lynn]

LOL

Download and hand in to any Judge a ?Notice of Felonies/Treason?: Dave Connors calls on thousands across the USA to file to defend the Constitution

CaDan, do you recall how in the 1990s several extremist groups like the Montana Freemen, Posse Comitatus, and Republic of Texas defrauded sympathizers by issuing worthless paper money, commercial paper, and worthess real property deeds? It seems like the same sort of exploitation of the gullible is being initiated now and this is but one example.

 

[Texas Lynn]

vaccinations should never be forced.

i think we lost our country a long time ago. we just didn't know it.

It's interesting to see how some of the same voices (not necessarily yours) against swine flu epidemic wanted to quarrantine AIDS patients in the 1980s, yet AIDS is not spread by casual contact.

How should government have responded to "Typhoid Mary" in the 1800s?

Who lost the country? The white power structure? They only controlled it by keeping everybody else down.

I heard a comedian say now that Obama is President we'll never have another white President. Sounds okay.

 

[Texas Lynn]

NO ONE has to take any unvoluntary medical procedures, cite your religious/moral right to refuse( alot of vaccines are made with fetus tissues) or your medical right to refuse( those with terminal illnesses or illnesses that you might die from the vaccine( flu vaccines give you the flu, so your body becomes immune to it, surely there are elderly with issues that the flu virus would kill) know your rights good people !! REFUSE, RESIST, UNITE, PERSIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd feel more sympathy for such a movement if it didn't have trappings of paranoia all over it and did not appear so clearly to advocate incredibly futile gestures.

 

[pgp_protector]

You appear to be suffering from "Obamessiah blindness".

The Spoof : Obamessiah to usher in a 'Golden Age' funny satire story

"After emerging victorious from one of the most obamafying elections in the history of United States, president-elect Barack Hussein Obama would magically solve all the problems the world is facing currently and usher our planet into a 'Golden Age' (also described as 'New World Order' by the powers that are) through a process known as 'Obamacanogy' (also referred as 'Barackanogy).
...snip....

ROFTL

You're using a Joke site to make your argument now

The Spoof : spoof news headlines, parody and political satire stories

Providing an irreverent and satirical slant to the current big news stories throughout the world, bringing you more funny stories than you can shake sticks at.

This gets funnier & funnier alt the time

 

[HisdaughterJen]

ROFTL

You're using a Joke site to make your argument now

The Spoof : spoof news headlines, parody and political satire stories


This gets funnier & funnier alt the time

Just lightening things up a little....

 

[pgp_protector]

Just lightening things up a little....

Right

 

[Hearts Alive]

I'd feel more sympathy for such a movement if it didn't have trappings of paranoia all over it and did not appear so clearly to advocate incredibly futile gestures.

lol lost in the matrix, how would it ve futile if everyone that could, did use their rights to refuse an untested, possibly poisonous vaccine? I'd say its quite useful and NEEDED, instead of blindly following the FED, how about we question their intentions and actions? I'm certainly NOT paranoid, I have just been given a gift to see through the constant propaganda campaigns by the FED, and trying to wake people up to the hypocrisy, how terrible of me right?

 

[ThankGodforGod]

I really do hope that if Swine Flu were to mutate into something with say...a 50% mortality rate, that you WOULD be put into a camp for being dumb enough to refuse a vaccine. If you want to die like a 14th century peasant then be my guest but I am not going to allow you to infect a whole lot of innocent people.

 

[ThankGodforGod]

I really do hope that if Swine Flu were to mutate into something with say...a 50% mortality rate, that you WOULD be put into a camp for being dumb enough to refuse a vaccine. If you want to die like a 14th century peasant then be my guest but I am not going to allow you to infect a whole lot of innocent people.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

I really do hope that if Swine Flu were to mutate into something with say...a 50% mortality rate, that you WOULD be put into a camp for being dumb enough to refuse a vaccine. If you want to die like a 14th century peasant then be my guest but I am not going to allow you to infect a whole lot of innocent people.

AS IF a person who refuses the vaccine automatically becomes a carrier of the disease!

The flu comes and goes EVERY year. There is a pandemic EVERY year. Some people get vaccines, some don't. Those who don't get the vaccine don't automatically become carriers of the disease.

Furthermore, there is NOTHING to indicate that this "swine flu" is going to "mutate into something with say...a 50% mortality rate".

It's a planned event! The evidence is clear!

 

[Hearts Alive]

I really do hope that if Swine Flu were to mutate into something with say...a 50% mortality rate, that you WOULD be put into a camp for being dumb enough to refuse a vaccine. If you want to die like a 14th century peasant then be my guest but I am not going to allow you to infect a whole lot of innocent people.

LOL wow, heres the problem, its FAR from deadly , and its been reported MANY times that the virus started in a lab and that the vaccines are highly untested, so no I will never take it, this EXACT same scare tactic was used in 1976, with the same flu, and the vaccine killed 10X more than the flu killed, but lets just ignore that fact right? those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it, yet another dead on cheesy cliche

 

[canukian]

The truth is always stranger than fiction. I wouldn't scoff just yet, guys. There are many reputable outlets that have told us that:
1. Those who disagree with Obama's policies (right wing) are extremists according the DHS report.
2. A snitch address has been set up for people to report their neighbors.
3. Detention centers have been built.
4. Internment/resettlement officers are being recruited.
5. Prepare for military and FEMA involvement in swine flu programs in the Fall.
6. Presidential directives for martial law in case of swine flu.
7. Preparations for mass graves and coffins for millions sitting on FEMA land.
8. Dehumanization campaign against American citizens who disagree, calling us "mobs", "astro-turf", unpatriotic, unAmerican, etc, etc etc.

All of those tidbits are FACTS. Scoff if you want but this is happening right before our eyes.

right on sister.

huh, they took down my post on obama death camps.

 

[WhatWeAllNeedToKnow]

Regarding Greg Evensen's original claims about the vaccine bracelet. After doing a search on the topic - I came across this article, published in the Boston Globe - November 2008. It describes a trial run of using vaccine bracelets that was issued at the Boston Public Health Commission headquarters. The bracelet, developed by Milwaukee based EMS Systems, was first purchased in 2006, proved successful in the trial run.

Quoting from the article:

Using technology originally developed for mass disasters, Boston disease trackers are embarking on a novel experiment - one of the first in the country - aimed at eventually creating a citywide registry of everyone who has had a flu vaccination.

The resulting vaccination map would allow swift intervention in neighbourhoods left vulnerable to the fast-moving respiratory illness.

The trial starts this afternoon, when several hundred people are expected to queue up for immunizations at the headquarters of the Boston Public Health Commission. Each of them will get a bracelet printed with a unique identifier code. Information about the vaccine's recipients, and the shot, will be entered into handheld devices similar to those used by delivery truck drivers.

The article is linked here:

___boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/11/21/boston_launches_flu_shot_tracking/
copy and paste the link

This ties into other developments in Massachusetts, as documented on this site, as well as globalresearch.ca - which has a video that is worth watching:

$1000 Per Day Fine & 30 Days In Jail For Refusing the Swine Flu Vaccine In Massachusetts

link to page with video...

___globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14899
copy and paste the link

All of this seems to corroborate Evensen's claims about the vaccine bracelets - continue spreading the word....this is looking extremely Draconian.

This information was posted at ___theflucase.com

The website, originated from the criminal charges filed in Vienna, Austria against Baxter and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology for producing and distributing contaminated bird flu vaccine material this winter - The charges claim that a standard seasonal flu vaccine was tainted by the live Bird Flu. Had a Biotest lab technician in Czechoslovakia not discovered it, it would have sparked a pandemic. The batch that was sent out was measured 72 kgs. It was sent to 16 labs in four countries.

Historically the Bird Flu is 63% lethal, but cannot typically be transmitted human-to-human. Introducing it into the bloodstream of unsuspecting individuals taking the standard flue shot however, experts say it would have been enabled to mutate and become transmissible. The Health Minister in Austria has been seen to be covering up a valid investigation and there has been no coverage of this on the mainstream media.

Re one of the posters on this thread discussing the ‘swine flu’ strain.

Dr. Adrian Gibbs – world-renowned researcher, who contributed to the development of Tamiflu, has examined the DNA sequencing of the current strain of ‘swine flu’. He suggests that it originated in a laboratory – and is mutating at rates that make ANY VACCINE unable to defend against.

Please take all this to heart. Share this information with your loved ones, your friends and in your communities and churches.

Since I am new to the forum
copy and paste the link

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Regarding Greg Evensen's original claims about the vaccine bracelet. After doing a search on the topic - I came across this article, published in the Boston Globe - November 2008. It describes a trial run of using vaccine bracelets that was issued at the Boston Public Health Commission headquarters. The bracelet, developed by Milwaukee based EMS Systems, was first purchased in 2006, proved successful in the trial run.

Quoting from the article:

Using technology originally developed for mass disasters, Boston disease trackers are embarking on a novel experiment - one of the first in the country - aimed at eventually creating a citywide registry of everyone who has had a flu vaccination.

The resulting vaccination map would allow swift intervention in neighbourhoods left vulnerable to the fast-moving respiratory illness.

The trial starts this afternoon, when several hundred people are expected to queue up for immunizations at the headquarters of the Boston Public Health Commission. Each of them will get a bracelet printed with a unique identifier code. Information about the vaccine's recipients, and the shot, will be entered into handheld devices similar to those used by delivery truck drivers.

The article is linked here:

___boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/11/21/boston_launches_flu_shot_tracking/
copy and paste the link

This ties into other developments in Massachusetts, as documented on this site, as well as globalresearch.ca - which has a video that is worth watching:

$1000 Per Day Fine & 30 Days In Jail For Refusing the Swine Flu Vaccine In Massachusetts

link to page with video...

___globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14899
copy and paste the link

All of this seems to corroborate Evensen's claims about the vaccine bracelets - continue spreading the word....this is looking extremely Draconian.

This information was posted at ___theflucase.com

The website, originated from the criminal charges filed in Vienna, Austria against Baxter and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology for producing and distributing contaminated bird flu vaccine material this winter - The charges claim that a standard seasonal flu vaccine was tainted by the live Bird Flu. Had a Biotest lab technician in Czechoslovakia not discovered it, it would have sparked a pandemic. The batch that was sent out was measured 72 kgs. It was sent to 16 labs in four countries.

Historically the Bird Flu is 63% lethal, but cannot typically be transmitted human-to-human. Introducing it into the bloodstream of unsuspecting individuals taking the standard flue shot however, experts say it would have been enabled to mutate and become transmissible. The Health Minister in Austria has been seen to be covering up a valid investigation and there has been no coverage of this on the mainstream media.

Re one of the posters on this thread discussing the ‘swine flu’ strain.

Dr. Adrian Gibbs – world-renowned researcher, who contributed to the development of Tamiflu, has examined the DNA sequencing of the current strain of ‘swine flu’. He suggests that it originated in a laboratory – and is mutating at rates that make ANY VACCINE unable to defend against.

Please take all this to heart. Share this information with your loved ones, your friends and in your communities and churches.

Since I am new to the forum
copy and paste the link

WOW! Great info, Whatweallneedtoknow!

 

[marlowe007]

If they attempt to forcefully "vaccinate" me, I will die in a shootout.