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yes - that law defines sin
So also "Sin IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4 -- the moral law defines what is and is not moral - what is sin.
Ask them what is the law of sin and death while you are at it.Okay, so where is the moral law to be found? Paul evidently was ignorant of it because he never referred to it; rather, he referred only to the LAW, which constituted each and every commandment given by God to His covenant people, the Jews.
Ask them what is the law of sin and death while you are at it.
One that gets ignored constantly like no such law exists.Another excellent question, indeed.
True, however in the case of the Bible its validated by historical events as true. Problem some people here want to say commands and covenants aren't valid according to their dictates. IOW some and not all of the Bible is valid in their mind. If part of it is valid and part of it isn't valid, who has the authority to say which is or isn't valid. A very interesting thing is the Bible doesn't have a single human author and yet it all collaborates with itself.
bugkiller
No dice, but good spin. What you posted doesn't line up with the Bible.
bugkiller
Correct!The Bible won't support this statement.Not according to my Bible. Such a notion is salvation by works. No I don't promote sin.Read what your quote actually says.
bugkiller
1. No text says "the Sabbath is but a shadow of the Lord's Day" -- because the 7th day Sabbath IS the Lord's Day. The "Sabbath of the LORD thy God" - the "Holy Day of the LORD" - and the "Son of man is LORD of the Sabbath" - nothing at all of that sort is found for "week day 1".
2. There is no such thing in the Bible as the "Bible Sabbath no longer legally binding on Christians" -- a fact so abundantly clear that EVEN the pro-Sunday, pro-week-day-1 scholars get this point about the Sabbath Commandment.
1 Timothy 5:8
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. nkjv
What do you think this verse means?
If a believer neglects to love members of his own household and shows his neglect by refusing to help them when they need his help, is he still a believer in Jesus Christ? Paul states this believer has denied the faith and he is now worse than an unbeliever!
Have his evil works now made him ineligible to inherit eternal life?
We know that unbelievers do not inherit eternal life, so do Christians who are worse than unbelievers still inherit eternal life?
Titus 1:16Works matter!
They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work. nkjv
Revelation 2:13
“I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is. And you hold fast to My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. nkjv
Matthew 10:33
But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. nkjv
The Sabbath laws were never legally binding on non-Jews.
Is this the Law to which you refer?
Romans 3:19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
Okay, so where is the moral law to be found?
yes - that law defines sin
So also "Sin IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4 -- the moral law defines what is and is not moral - what is sin.
hence this question that many have been anxious to avoid
In Eph 6:2 - "honor your father and mother for this is the first commandment with a promise" -- what Law - what unit of Law is it to be found that 'honor your father and mother" is the FIRST commandment with a promise??
First commandment where??
Paul evidently found it in that question above that you are not answering. For in it the 5th Commandment is the "First commandment WITH a promise"
That statement applied to the moral law of God - the TEN commandments -- is a recent innovation in man-made tradition.
By direct contrast - the TEN Commandments have long been accepted as the moral law of God - that defines what sin is and to break one is to break them all.
"From Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL Mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
"the Sabbath was MADE for MANKIND - not mankind MADE for the Sabbath" Mark 2:27
"there REMAINS therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of GOD" Heb 4.
"Honor your Father and Mother - for this is the FIRST Commandment with a promise" - FIRST in the TEN Commandments. Eph 6:2
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
Works matter, indeed, but to whom and for what purposes?
That statement applied to the moral law of God - the TEN commandments -- is a recent innovation in man-made tradition.
By direct contrast - the TEN Commandments have long been accepted as the moral law of God - that defines what sin is and to break one is to break them all.
"From Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL Mankind come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
"the Sabbath was MADE for MANKIND - not mankind MADE for the Sabbath" Mark 2:27
"there REMAINS therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of GOD" Heb 4.
"Honor your Father and Mother - for this is the FIRST Commandment with a promise" - FIRST in the TEN Commandments. Eph 6:2
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
To whom?
All people.
For what purpose?
The persons who do not do good works (bear fruits) with love to help their families and their neighbors will not be approved to inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 13:1-9; 1 Peter 4:8
Matthew 21:43
Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. nkjv
1 Timothy 5:8
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. nkjv
Matthew 25:32-46
All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” nkjv
The people who do evil works will not inherit the kingdom of God.
John 5:28-29
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. nkjv
The Ten Commandments were examples of how the Israelites were to show love for God and love for their neighbors.
And, to break one commandment is not actually literally the same as breaking all of them and this can be a subject for another email if you desire.
What is the moral law? Is it that NT Christians must obey the OT Sabbath laws?
Luke 10:25-28
5 And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 He said to him, “What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?”
27 So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’
28 And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.” nkjv
The Saturday Sabbath requirements that were commanded under the Levitical priesthood are not valid for the Christians who are under the Melchizedek priesthood.
Hebrews 7:11-16
Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. nkjv
Why did Christ distinguish between His commandments and the ten commandments? (try answering the question)All scripture is given by inspiration from God - 2 Tim 3:16
1050 Commandments in the NT and the 600+ in the OT - all given to us by God.
All scripture is given by inspiration from God - 2 Tim 3:16
1050 Commandments in the NT and the 600+ in the OT - all given to us by God.
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