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Nathan Poe
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So you say... always nice to leave yourself an escape route, isn't it?Follower of Christ said:of course....
its all in the interpretation, isnt it Poe
Olin Miller said:
Doctor Who said:
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Nathan Poe
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I'd need another bottle the next day: A little hair of the dogma that bit me.JohnR7 said:
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Ishmael Borg
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Please show me where I "spouted" this. If you can't, I guess you owe me an apology.Follower of Christ said:'
just stop spouting out that WE have to believe it
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John is right, absolute (200) Proof would probably kill you.
and don't knock bottled hair color, my hair color comes from a bottle.
and don't knock bottled hair color, my hair color comes from a bottle.
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Follower of Christ
Literal 6 Day Creationist<br />''An Evening and a
Maybe.........Nathan Poe said:
About the same tactics you all use seeing how you dodge actually commiting to anything you teach / preach.
You profess it as ''fact'' seemingly, yet know that any part of it could change tomorrow....
You know, you all would have my attention the second I start seeing you say ''it appears to have happened this way....'' rather than telling us it DID....
But we all know how evolution is taught......as a theory that is absolutely true.
Believe it or be ridiculed, right?
Say it isnt so, Poe, so I can spend the next hour or so laughing to myself...
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Follower of Christ said:
No. That is what the myth of the virgin birth is about. If you stop discarding myths and take them as seriously as they are intended to be taken, then accepting the myth of the virgin birth is accepting that Jesus is the Son of God.
It's only if you take the "fiction is a waste of time" approach and throw myths into the dustbin that you end up throwing away the affirmation that Jesus is the Son of God.
Value your myths and your faith remains intact.
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Follower of Christ
Literal 6 Day Creationist<br />''An Evening and a
When you say ''myth'' .....are you maening the virgin birth is not a factual event?gluadys said:
Was Jesus born of a VIRGIN or not ???
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The problem is that the virgin birth can't be falsified like the global flood can, so the same type thinking that says the global flood is false, can't say the virgin birth is false. Just the same with other one time events that don't leave any evidence behind, and don't make god into a deciever, you must take those events on faith.
Oh wait, im a non believer, what do I know.
Oh wait, im a non believer, what do I know.
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Nathan Poe
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Committing? Virtually every aspect of biology and zoology is based on the theory of evolution. How much farther would you have people "commit?"Follower of Christ said:
Facts change, FoC. And that's a fact.
It used to be a fact that today was Tuesday. Time passes...
It used to be a fact that nobody lived past 80 years old. This is no longer true.
It used to be a fact that talking to someone on the other side of the world was impossible. Not so anymore.
It used to be a fact that man could not fly. We took care of that one quite nicely.
Every scientific experiment, discovery, theory, what-have-you, has this underlying assumption: That it could be falsified tomorrow. That we accept these things as provisionally true (true until someone comes along and proves it false) is as close as anyone is ever going to come. That's close enough for everyone except you.
No more true than gravity, astronomy, biology, and chemistry. Yet evolution seems to be the black sheep because...?
1: You'll never be by yourself; the other YECs will keep you company.
2: Depends on what you offer as an alternative, and what facts you have to support it.
Try challenging Newton's physics some time. Einstein did, and was able to put his money where his mouth was. Now the scientists challenge Einstein, and they don't get ridiculed, even when they fail.
But to challenge a scientific theory with nothing but Ancient Middle Eastern Mythology? That will get you laughed out of the room every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
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Follower of Christ
Literal 6 Day Creationist<br />''An Evening and a
Youve GOT to be kidding, right.....please say its so.....
THOSE are as bad as trying to compare evolution to gravity......
It USED to be tuesday.......... you compare that to ''oh by the way, we screwed up children, Neanderthal WASNT youre great uncle''?
Thats not even an intellegent comparison, so Im just going to assume youre pulling my leg....
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Nathan Poe
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1: will we ever know?Follower of Christ said:
Nobody will ever know if the Virgin birth happened or not. Joseph and Mary had nothing to say; the account is hearsay, and even Jesus wouldn't know (at least not without divine knowledge).
So unless you want to hop into Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine and give a DNA test to every male in ancient Israel, you're never going to get that ABSOLUTE PROOF you keep demanding from everyone else.
2: Does it matter?
What is this obsession with Biblical minutiae?
Tell the truth, FoC: would Christ's message mean any less to you if you somehow discovered that he *gasp* was conceived the same way as the rest of us?
Or is your usual "slippery slope" argument still in effect?
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Follower of Christ
Literal 6 Day Creationist<br />''An Evening and a
THere is a HUGE differnce between the LAW of gravity and the IDEA of evolution...........HUGE differnce, but Im sure you dont see it
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Ishmael Borg
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Consult scientists, my friend.Follower of Christ said:THere is a HUGE differnce between the LAW of gravity and the IDEA of evolution...........HUGE differnce, but Im sure you dont see it
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Nathan Poe
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Follower of Christ said:
The evolution and gravity argument is only "bad" becasue you can't counter it.
"Just FYI, we thought it was an uncle, now we see that it was probably more of a neighbor. For any kids who have difficulty accepting this, the Guidance office will be open to help you through this difficult time."
Another useful escape route: Feign moral superiority.
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Nathan Poe
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Theory of gravity, FoC... Theory.Follower of Christ said:THere is a HUGE differnce between the LAW of gravity and the IDEA of evolution...........HUGE differnce, but Im sure you dont see it
Things fall down, but can you tell me why with ABSOLUTE PROOF?
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Follower of Christ
Literal 6 Day Creationist<br />''An Evening and a
riiiiiiiiiiiight......... the ''THEORY'' of gravity is what makes stuff fall down go boom.......Nathan Poe said:
No wonder you folks cant figure anything out, you have all these fancy terms that you can even get straight yourself
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Nathan Poe
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Follower of Christ said:riiiiiiiiiiiight......... the ''THEORY'' of gravity is what makes stuff fall down go boom.......
No wonder you folks cant figure anything out, you have all these fancy terms that you can even get straight yourself
We've got it quite straight... the only one here stumbling over elementary science is you.
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