If you aren't moved by this, you are not human

[BeamMeUpScotty]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]One Mother's Stand[/font]

Play the file from Crawford, Texas.

 

[InnerPhyre]

She already met with the president once. I feel for her loss, as I do for the thousands of others who have lost loved ones in the war, but at this point, she's trying to make a political point, not find out why the "president killed her son." She knows why we went to war. She knows why her son volunteered to join the military.

 

[mutantleader]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]One Mother's Stand[/font]

Play the file from Crawford, Texas.

Kirk, thank you for sharing the link. It was nice to hear about thehappenings in Texas.

 

[the_cheat]

I'm not sure that "making a political point" and finding out why "the president killed her son" (or to use a less sensationalistic phrasing, "why the president sent her son to war, where he died") are two entirely separate issues. To me, the WHY of the Iraq was is very important, because it speaks not only about the honesty of our commander-in-chief, but also about the ultimate goals of our action in Iraq - where DOES our leadership expect this to lead, and what are they planning to do to get us there?

 

[BarbB]

This poor woman has been made a pawn by moveon.org. Shame on them.

 

[the_cheat]

This poor woman has been made a pawn by moveon.org. Shame on them.

On the contrary - I think she's using the media, not vice versa. Like any skilled protestor, she knows that if she makes this into a show, she'll get the media attention.

 

[jamesrwright3]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]One Mother's Stand[/font]

Play the file from Crawford, Texas.

I guess I am not human.
I am moved by her loss but not by her followup actions.

 

[Caprice]

On the contrary - I think she's using the media, not vice versa. Like any skilled protestor, she knows that if she makes this into a show, she'll get the media attention.

She and the media both get what they want in this situation. The fact that she is using the media does not imply that the media is not using her too.

I feel for her, but she got more than most in regards to seeing and speaking with the President.

 

[the_cheat]

She and the media both get what they want in this situation. The fact that she is using the media does not imply that the media is not using her too.

You're right. I think the distinction we need to make here is that although the media is using her, that doesn't make her their pawn - she seems to have gone into this knowing how to play the media.

 

[Caprice]

You're right. I think the distinction we need to make here is that although the media is using her, that doesn't make her their pawn - she seems to have gone into this knowing how to play the media.

Indeed.

 

[the_cheat]

Indeed.

[ot]I really like the word "indeed"[/ot]

 

[Redneck]

I guess I am not human.
I am moved by her loss but not by her followup actions.

All I saw was a publicity hound. Not moving to me at all.

I guess I'm not a human as well.

 

[PACKY]

She already met with the president once. I feel for her loss, as I do for the thousands of others who have lost loved ones in the war, but at this point, she's trying to make a political point, not find out why the "president killed her son." She knows why we went to war. She knows why her son volunteered to join the military.

I kow why many of my classmates joined the military as well so that they could actually pay for school as they were not rich kids and tuition is so high they couldnt even make it with financial aide...were you in the military?
Seems IMO a very callouse and opinionated statement.

 

[the_cheat]

All I saw was a publicity hound. Not moving to me at all.

I guess I'm not a human as well.

I'm interested in why publicity seeking has an automatic negative connotation. Obviously, there are people who just like attention. But publicity is about the only way to make changes if you're not some kind of policy-maker or wealthy lobbyist. Publicity seeking has worked very well for some morally outstanding social justice campaigns. Most notably, I'd point to the protests and speeches against racial separatism in the 60s...that was all about the publicity seeking, and it worked, and the US is a better place for it.

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

And Bush isn't a publicity seeker? C'mon, he's the worst one around. But he can pick and chooose his publicity. All his innane "town hall" meetings.

This woman is seeking publicity, I agree, but she has a legitimate cause. Even if you disagree with her, she's using free speech to get her cause heard and that's her right. How many of you have sat in a ditch in the heat for days on end to further a cause? I haven't.

Why aren't people disturbed by the fact that Bush can't answer the question "What is one mistake you've made?"? Nobody expects the man to be perfect, but we should expect him to be accountable.

 

[419gam]

Its not like there is a draft her son could have stayed home. Its sad, but not unexpected that her son could die in combat.

 

[jillyjam]

You're right. I think the distinction we need to make here is that although the media is using her, that doesn't make her their pawn - she seems to have gone into this knowing how to play the media.

Simply a symbiotic relationship I suppose. I am also apparently not human.

 

[Rik]

I kow why many of my classmates joined the military as well so that they could actually pay for school as they were not rich kids and tuition is so high they couldnt even make it with financial aide...were you in the military?
Seems IMO a very callouse and opinionated statement.

I originally joined the military for college money as well and ended up doing 14 years total. But I went in with the full understanding that I might have to fight in a war and perhaps die. And so did Casey. His father has said that when he signed up, he was planning on making the military a career. Yet now all the anti-war people are trying desperately to portray him as a victim who was either fooled, pressured, or bribed into joining the military simply to further their cause. What they're doing to this young man's sacrifice is pathetic.

And as far as the video...I was supposed to be moved by THAT? You've got to be kidding me. Half of the thing is two people talking about the weather. Then the woman chuckles as she talks about the hunger strike. Then she spends a few minutes talking about how brave and courageous Cindy is and how cowardly the President is. Wow, how incredibly moving.

Count me in the ever increasing not-human camp.

 

[CHARLES H]

i'm probably not human either. btw i was in the military as well,during iraq1.

 

[staugustine68]

She should be thankful that the USA considered her son worthy in fighting for our freedom. I know I would be.