If you are more virtuous, then it follows that you will be more moral...

[variant]

Not by your or my standards of what is moral but have you asked a sociopath what they consider to be morally upright? Perhaps to that person antisocial, unempathetic behavior is to that sociopath the correct moral stance to take?

If you start accepting the morality of sociopaths than the term morality is utterly meaningless.

Perhaps we should ask psychopaths and the deranged their opinions next.

 

[variant]

That depends on an assumption that being virtuous stems from the results of your behavior and not from your intentions which is an assumption that is not universally accepted.

I picked "cured cancer" to be a near universal virtue as I believe it is considered that.

It also depends upon an assumption that the absence of cancer in humans would be on the whole a good thing which is probably a very well accepted assumption for most humans, but not all, as there are those that believe the human race is the scourge of the planet and that the universe would be better off without us.

Who cares what a minority of misanthropic humans think when considering a term like morality which has a mainly social basis?

Of course there is always a contrarian case to be made, it just doesn't matter when we are talking about how people generally define the terms "moral" and "virtuous".

So what is the point of the contrarian argument here?

 

[Chad Farwell]

why not ask the psychos their opinion, opinions are nothing without opinion!!!

 

[variant]

why not ask the psychos their opinion, opinions are nothing without opinion!!!

We can ask psychopaths what they think, but acting like their views are going to define terms like "morality" for everyone is a bit off.

If when asked the question "if you are virtuous will it then follow that you will be more moral?" and your first instinct is to think: "Hey let's ask sociopaths and psychopaths their opinions on what the terms "virtuous" and "moral" mean", then you might be missing the point of the discussion you've entered into on a pretty fundamental level.