If truth is absoluute then why are therre so many different religions?

[LoAmmi]

The first link doesn't show the man footprint at the tip )but touching the center/big toe of) the Dino print. They left that one out- and it is clearly a man's footprint (perfect shape). But it, too, was in Texas. This is often what we see when someone is unwilling to show all of the evidence. And maybe both sides do it.

I've looked at all the photos any creationist has posted on it and I've never seen anything that is clearly a human foot.

 

[Cearbhall]

Cearbhall, you live by absolute truth every day. Why would you say there isn't such a thing?

I would agree with you on matters of science. However, I was responding to a post about theology.

 

[fat wee robin]

I believe that there is absolute truth but man being finite can not understand it. We understand that it has to be absolute but we can not grasp it in its entirety. Is there one God? Are there many? What difference does it make? If there was more than one God would their goals for us be different than if there was only one God?

The first two sentences had truth ,but the lsat two lost the way .

 

[fat wee robin]

That it is one approach to the oneness of religion known as perennialism, based on the premise that the true theology was taught in the beginning and has been gradually eroded. The Baha'i approach is very different. We believe that God revealed Himself progressively to various peoples in accordance with the age and needs in which they lived. The Tabernacle of Unity is an interesting dialogue between Manakji Limji Hataria, a Zoroastrian perennialist and Baha'u'llah. http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/TU/

The first part is correct that when we were with God in the beginning, we knew the truth (it was not theology but) within us.
There was a crisis in Heaven which caused man to descend to his lowest ,and as we evolved from there, God revealed Himself in certain societies where there were good people, in order to create a higher culture ,which in time people would bring down to their own level of understanding
Many people have never reached the level internally where they can comprehend God .
To reach that level requires purity of heart and body, and to be seeking ,then God will come into that person, and they will evolve to a higher level .

Christianity developed from a Jewish Rabbi and is the last time God will appear on the earth before He comes to judge .Since Jesus came ,and as a result of of the suppression of Satan and his works for much of 2000 years we evolved our society to the highest level,, since we were banished from heaven .
Since things are now in descent, it appears that satan has been released ,and that people are now in the process of choosing ,God or the adversary .
Many christians think it will happen in an instant , but the descent is gradual ,until it becomes a torrent .
So the answer is that probably most people are incapable of entering into communion with God ,and make up their own gods in the vacuum .

 

[fat wee robin]

Even partially defined? I don't think anyone is claiming to define God wholly.

Agreed ,there are always some humans to whom God can reveal Himself ,as He
has already decided they have the correct 'qualifications '

 

[fat wee robin]

I've noticed that claims of answered prayers, miracles, changed lives, and so on are present in many different religions. Those claims are where I personally would search for evidence of God, but they are present in religions with contradictory theologies.

It seems that either God exists and doesn't care too much about our particular choice of religion, or God doesn't exist in any way that is relevant to humans. If God doesn't care, then atheism makes the most sense to me. Of course most religions don't share my opinion.

It is true that cares most about the state of our heart ,for it is through the heart He enters in and one thing that He most cares about is that we seek Him . In certain societies at any given time Christianity might not be available and so people will be judged by how they search .Lifelong atheism shows that God has not entered in into
the person because their level cynicism is too great;there are of course plenty of religious atheists wherein God does not dwell .

 

[gord44]

I think the main reason there is so many different religions and paths is that people like to claim certainty on truth even though they have no way to clearly establish that. The smarter and more easy path is to admit that knowing everything and knowing absolute truth is not really possible with our limited understanding and lifespans. The priests and pastors (and some scientists too) try and sell certainty because it seems to be a common flaw in humans to want to know everything (even when that is impossible). These 'sellers of certainty' are either foolish at best or at worst they know themselves that they are not certain and still claim what they sell is certain which robs people of their time, which is already limited and cannot be taken back.

 

[smaneck]

[QUOTE="Rocmonkey, post: 68580238, member: 348439" The only errors I have found in the Bible are men failing to accurately quote the OT or something as that. [/QUOTE]

The reason you have never found any errors in the Bible is because you reject out of hand any evidence that might suggest the Bible is wrong. You did that when you rejected evolution and you did that when you said you would put the Bible over any evidence from 'men.'

For example Paul, Corinthians, speaks of a war in the OT. What Paul says, 23,000 men fail, was incorrect. The number was 24,000 according to the OT. These kinds of mistakes/errors have no effect on the message or meaning of the Bible. He simply got his figures wrong- as all humans do from time to time. But when it comes to the meaning or the message of the Bible there are no mistakes, contradictions or errors when viewed in context.

Despite the above, I think you are largely right about this, that the central message the Bible still stands. But there are still plenty of mistakes, contradictions and errors of fact. And there are other things that change over time, like the Sabbath. And still others that should change, like the status of women.

 

[smaneck]

I.Lifelong atheism shows that God has not entered in into
the person because their level cynicism is too great;there are of course plenty of religious atheists wherein God does not dwell .

And you know why God has not come to them, how?

I'm sorry, but you are being rather presumptuous, judging what you have no right to judge.

 

[smaneck]

In fact, there are footprints (Texas, for one place) that have both Dino footprints and man's in the same rock strata.

Actually these were almost certainly not human footprints. Some of the tracks were fake, carved by locals to sell. They do not represent the way human footprints would look when walking in mud; they are too big for humans and even if we posit that they were made by some human giant they do not accurately reflect the changes in the way giant humans would walk as a result of their size. Other footprints were genuine tracks, but not human ones. Glen Kuban studied these genuine prints in 1986 and determined they were made by bipedal dinosaurs with three toes.

 

[Rocmonkey]

http://www.paleo.cc/paluxy/mantrack.htm

http://www.paleo.cc/paluxy/stegosaur-claim.htm

With 100% more science than the claims of creationists.

Check out this set of human footprints with a dinosaur's. It's at 17 seconds in- but the whole show/series (which we found on Netflix) is quite interesting and which the 1st site I went to didn't have on it. I found that pretty interesting as well as intentional deceit or attempted trickery.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=154DA205EAAF5D32B2C8154DA205EAAF5D32B2C8

 

[LoAmmi]

Ancient aliens? What kind of show is this?

 

[Rocmonkey]

Actually these were almost certainly not human footprints. Some of the tracks were fake, carved by locals to sell. They do not represent the way human footprints would look when walking in mud; they are too big for humans and even if we posit that they were made by some human giant they do not accurately reflect the changes in the way giant humans would walk as a result of their size. Other footprints were genuine tracks, but not human ones. Glen Kuban studied these genuine prints in 1986 and determined they were made by bipedal dinosaurs with three toes.

Check out the link I just posted or look up the series 'Ancient Aliens and Dinosaurs'. The footprints are perfect- both the man's and the dinosaur's. That is proof they both existed at the same time as the Bible states in Job. Also, the 2nd link LoAmmi posted was about Dinos. The blogger/poster tried to say the pic wasn't a Stegosaur. Problem is he used to many "possibly', 'maybes', and 'may have'. A trick/tool the evolutionists 'always' use.

 

[Rocmonkey]

Ancient aliens? What kind of show is this?

Aliens... But what they show in some are real objects and animals. They simply add an alien connection. I know but they are interesting. And since I've seen a UFO I find them informative and interesting. Now I'm black-listed for sure, huh? hahaha

 

[LoAmmi]

I'm not watching that. There is only so much time in a day and I'd rather spend the time playing Metal Gear Solid 5 than be annoyed by alien stuff.

 

[LoAmmi]

Check out the link I just posted or look up the series 'Ancient Aliens and Dinosaurs'. The footprints are perfect- both the man's and the dinosaur's. That is proof they both existed at the same time as the Bible states in Job. Also, the 2nd link LoAmmi posted was about Dinos. The blogger/poster tried to say the pic wasn't a Stegosaur. Problem is he used to many "possibly', 'maybes', and 'may have'. A trick/tool the evolutionists 'always' use.

So it is the contention of creationists that stegosaurus dinosaurs were around in the 12th century?

 

[Rocmonkey]

Evolution predicted that life would fall into a nested Hierarchy and by examining the fossil record we can see they were right on the money. In fact I have heard no other explanation as to why the fossil record would show this trend there are many other pieces of evidence to be sure men spend their whole lives studying the phenomenon of evolution.

It's funny (interesting) that life exploded on earth all at the same time. Sounds like the Creation to me. And, it's funny that so much life all died at the same time (the fossil records bears this out). Sounds like the Flood of Noah's time to me. I know there are altering views but the Bible explains both of the views/reasons I mentioned. No one else has come to close to explaining it (both) except evolution. But everyone knows that 'nothing' can't create 'something'. Or, we'd be seeing a lot of somethings occur everyday that 'nothing' created and dropped on earth. Or did that nothing stop creating something way back when?

 

[Rocmonkey]

So it is the contention of creationists that stegosaurus dinosaurs were around in the 12th century?

Well, personally, I wasn't there. But how do you explain, without 'maybes', 'possibly', 'could have', that Steg on that wall? I don't know. But what I do know is that pliable body parts on a T-Rex that supposedly died 75 million years ago is absolutely impossible. We're not talking a few hours or a few days even- we're talking 75 millions of years. I can't believe anyone had the audacity to even think such let alone say it. yet we found that T-Rex in 2004 in Montana. I really don't know. But I do believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old- maybe 6 or 6,500.

 

[Rocmonkey]

So they didn't know if they had eaten the Passover Seder or not the night before? Sorry, but that's not something I could go along with. In fact, the more hoops you need to jump though to explain it, the more implausible it becomes.

I agree. There has to be a better explanation. I don't know it but I will look to see. These guys, all Jewish, had to know when the Passover, of all days, was.

 

[LoAmmi]

You are getting all of your "facts" from creationist sources, right?

http://m.livescience.com/41537-t-rex-soft-tissue.html

I don't think there is any evidence that dinosaurs existed at the same time the Crusades were going on.