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If there was no death (of animals) before the Fall, then why would animals need to eat?

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We don't care what you believe, we just don't want it made public policy. And you're not being bullied. You're being disagreed with.
I hate to disagree, but I've sat here and watched AV get bullied by some.
 
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Right.Categorical, actually.

For example, a "stone" could be a pebble, a stone, a rock, or a boulder.

Wine could be either fermented or unfermented, but always starts out as grape juice.
Wine, by definition, is fermented.
 
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get a better job.
this one requires you to be unpleasant to people
 
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In that case, all fruits contain alcohol.
Bingo.
As soon as fruit is picked, or bruised, it starts to ferment.
Grape juice in made by boiling off the alcohol, and adding beet sugar.
Beet sugar requires modern processing.
Also, left out f the fridge, your grape juice will start to ferment again.
 
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Scientists had nothing to do with it. Why do you always try to blame everything you dont like, on scientists?
 
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If it's so important to you that you need to think everyone and everyone in Bible times drank wine, including Jesus turning water into wine, then I'll give you credit for being a scholar, but not a wise one.
Wine was pretty much the only safe thing TO drink. Water born diseases were killed by alcohol
 
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