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Aman777

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Your idea that Jesus made the "kind" pattern the next day and God copied that pattern the previous day is - imaginative, it is, however, merely a rescue interpretation of the inconsistency.

That is WHY I posted the Scriptural FACT that God sees the end from the beginning.
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning,

God wrote the of FUTURE events at the end of the present 6th Day also. You can read them in Genesis 1:28-31. Our God is an awesome God. He told the complete HISTORY of His perfect 3rd Heaven in the FIRST chapter of Genesis. It's one of the things which separates God from mankind.
 
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You should be embarrassed and ashamed for representing your faith in such a dishonest and deceitful way. Do you even care about honesty and integrity, or are the few parts of the bible touching on that subject reinterpreted too?

Thanks for confirming what God told us thousands of years ago.

1Co 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

Your confusion can be eliminated by asking God into your life so that you too, can understand God's Holy Word. Then you can tell the Godless Scientists the whole Truth instead of falsely accusing God's children. God Bless you
 
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That is WHY I posted the Scriptural FACT that God sees the end from the beginning.
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning,

God wrote the of FUTURE events at the end of the present 6th Day also. You can read them in Genesis 1:28-31. Our God is an awesome God. He told the complete HISTORY of His perfect 3rd Heaven in the FIRST chapter of Genesis. It's one of the things which separates God from mankind.
Yet the only reason we know anything about god , is because men wrote something down about god.

Amen?
 
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Thanks for confirming what God told us thousands of years ago.

1Co 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

Your confusion can be eliminated by asking God into your life so that you too, can understand God's Holy Word. Then you can tell the Godless Scientists the whole Truth instead of falsely accusing God's children. God Bless you
Well, that’s the thing about truth, it doesn’t come from an imagined relationship with an invisible being. Reality is there for all to observe.

Amen?
 
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Thanks for confirming what God told us thousands of years ago.
People were calling out this nonsense well before your God "inspired" someone claiming to be his messenger to write it down somewhere.
Your confusion can be eliminated by asking God into your life so that you too, can understand God's Holy Word.
He knows where to find me and how to convince me he exists. YOU are just doing damage to his cause.
 
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Yet the only reason we know anything about god , is because men wrote something down about god.

Amen?

No, since the Holy Spirit is the Author of Scripture. It's another thing about God. He can author books from inside the men who actually pen the words. Genesis chapter one is filled with recently discovered scientific facts which could NOT have been known by ANY person 3k years ago. NO unbeliever has been able to explain.
 
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No, since the Holy Spirit is the Author of Scripture. It's another thing about God. He can author books from inside the men who actually pen the words. Genesis chapter one is filled with recently discovered scientific facts which could NOT have been known by ANY person 3k years ago. NO unbeliever has been able to explain.
poppycock.
 
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Well, that’s the thing about truth, it doesn’t come from an imagined relationship with an invisible being. Reality is there for all to observe.

Amen?

Amen, and that is WHY the proper understanding of Genesis is so important. It actually AGREES in every way with every discovery of Science and History. It does NOT agree with some theories (ToE) which are nothing more than false assumptions of godless people.
 
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People were calling out this nonsense well before your God "inspired" someone claiming to be his messenger to write it down somewhere.

He knows where to find me and how to convince me he exists. YOU are just doing damage to his cause.

Thanks for your atheistic opinion. IF I agreed with you, I would be ashamed to face God. Will you wait for righteous judgment before your knees bow? Rom 14:11
 
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poppycock.

False, since God told us thousands of years ago, about your unbelief.

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

FYI, the only thing "holy" about men is the Holy Spirit inside them. They are the living. Amen?
 
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Amen, and that is WHY the proper understanding of Genesis is so important. It actually AGREES in every way with every discovery of Science and History. It does NOT agree with some theories (ToE) which are nothing more than false assumptions of godless people.
The only reasonable unstanding of Genesis is a mythical one. Don’t miss the forest for the trees.

Amen.
 
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False, since God told us thousands of years ago, about your unbelief.

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

FYI, the only thing "holy" about men is the Holy Spirit inside them. They are the living. Amen?
Ghosts only exist in movies.

Amen
 
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Thanks for your atheistic opinion. IF I agreed with you, I would be ashamed to face God. Will you wait for righteous judgment before your knees bow? Rom 14:11
Don’t waste your life fearing something that will never happen.

Amen.
 
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Your posted:Gen 1:21
21 God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
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The version you use takes Jesus out of the verse and destroys the meaning of the verse. Here is another verse which cannot be explained by "its".

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after His kind, and cattle after Their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

I have other verses which show that Lord God/Jesus (His kind) made the beasts of the Earth and the creeping things of the Earth. God (Elohim/The Trinity) doesn't make things for Earth since God the Trinity always "creates" Eternal beings which will be in Heaven, forever. Removing the role of Jesus in Genesis is what causes the ancient theological view to be in error. It also reveals the inability to understand the difference between God and Lord God.

The pronoun you highlighted - "its" . . . refers to the birds, not to God or Jesus. You are not making sense at all.
 
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Nope. All are possible. And I can invent an infinite amount of such possibilities out of thin air.

Plausible things, however.... are possibilities that actually have demonstrable pathways to actually happen.

Of your list, there is only 1 "possibility" that is actually "plausible" and that is the possibility of evolution. It's the only thing backed by evidence. And lots of it!

And every new discovery fits the model of evolution.
Gods and extra-terrestial intervention? They don't show up anywhere....

Except in 3000 year old religious books.

It is called the "theory" of evolution. Is it possible the "evidence" is being misinterpreted? What "evidence" is one looking at? What "theories" is one looking at? Only looking at one? Darwins?

Science: There is no "evidence" of gradualism in the fossil record.

The history of most fossil species includes two features in consistent with gradualism:

1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless.

2. Sudden Appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed."

One believes in evolution (Darwins) .... ok .... however has one spent very much time considering intelligent design as well and really looking at the complexities of life? Science is important, no doubt about that. It reveals complexity more and more all the time but science does not "prove" evolution.

Life is very complex .... for me .... difficult to believe the odds of millions of random "happenings" produced over millions of years is a pretty far reach in comparison of the complexity of life as we see and experience. The more complex ... the more evidence of intelligent design.

I believe Science supports of life design (creation) and because of the complexities being discovered more so than evolution.

Here's one - Science and creation: Evidence from Science | The Institute for Creation Research

Just saying ..... consider the "evidence" of intelligent design, which is shown through science as well.

There are many out there, consider them as well.
 
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Paul of Eugene OR

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. . . . 2. Sudden Appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed."
The fossil record is necessarily a very small percentage of all the animals that ever lived. A new species starts out with just a few members and doesn't expand to become more populous until a lot of refining of the new species has taken place. That's the real explanation for what seems to be a "sudden" appearance.

One believes in evolution (Darwins) .... ok .... however has one spent very much time considering intelligent design as well and really looking at the complexities of life? Science is important, no doubt about that. It reveals complexity more and more all the time but science does not "prove" evolution.

And yet you have hair, as a mammal, instead of scales or feathers.

Life is very complex .... for me .... difficult to believe the odds of millions of random "happenings" produced over millions of years is a pretty far reach in comparison of the complexity of life as we see and experience. The more complex ... the more evidence of intelligent design.

I believe Science supports of life design (creation) and because of the complexities being discovered more so than evolution.

Argument from complexity doesn't work. Natural selection working in massive parallel action over millions of years is going to be inherently complex.

Life design (creation) doesn't explain instances of poor design and instances of vestigial remnants.
 
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It is called the "theory" of evolution. Is it possible the "evidence" is being misinterpreted? What "evidence" is one looking at? What "theories" is one looking at? Only looking at one? Darwins?

Science: There is no "evidence" of gradualism in the fossil record.

The history of most fossil species includes two features in consistent with gradualism:

1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless.

2. Sudden Appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed."

One believes in evolution (Darwins) .... ok .... however has one spent very much time considering intelligent design as well and really looking at the complexities of life? Science is important, no doubt about that. It reveals complexity more and more all the time but science does not "prove" evolution.

Life is very complex .... for me .... difficult to believe the odds of millions of random "happenings" produced over millions of years is a pretty far reach in comparison of the complexity of life as we see and experience. The more complex ... the more evidence of intelligent design.

I believe Science supports of life design (creation) and because of the complexities being discovered more so than evolution.

Here's one - Science and creation: Evidence from Science | The Institute for Creation Research

Just saying ..... consider the "evidence" of intelligent design, which is shown through science as well.

There are many out there, consider them as well.
Careful where you get your information. Professional creationists will lie and prey on the gullible.
 
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Life design (creation) doesn't explain instances of poor design and instances of vestigial remnants.

its like saying that design cant explain a broken mirror in a car. therefore the car just evolved. see the problem?
 
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