If the Kavanaugh accusations are true...

Hank77 · Sep 21, 2018

I'm an unaffiliated voter, I have no loyalty to either side. I vote both sides of the aisle.

IF the accusation is true he should not be confirmed.

IF the accusation is true and he had admitted it, apologized, and explained I find no reason he shouldn't be confirmed, even though I don't really like him.

Note: I like Gorsuch, so it's not because he is conservative, I just think something is off.

Greg J. · Sep 21, 2018

Anyone considered what the culture was like when he did that? Do you realize that it happened a lot (depending on the details) and girls were more likely to punch him in the face than call a lawyer? You can't judge someone who did something in a context you do not understand. Oh, there's some verses about that passing judgment on someone you might want to look up. It would be beneficial to you—even if you had first-hand evidence.

redleghunter · Sep 21, 2018

Aldebaran said:
She "came out" because she was basically outed by Feinstein.

Seems like the Senate Democrats don't care whose lives they change and ruin, just as long as they get their political pound of flesh.

Desk trauma · Sep 21, 2018

John 12:25 said:
I never tried to suggest consent is optional, that’s your own assumption.

That was a question not an assumption

John 12:25 said:
But this woman has zero credibility in my book. For starters, there’s references to ‘not being able to remember’ all the good old times at the Animal House described in this yearbook (which was scrubbed from the internet). Drunks don’t seem to be the best at accurately recalling events. Feminists are proven liars who seek to cause harm to men. The lifestyle described in this yearbook is the epitome of feminism. I don’t trust this woman. I surely wouldn’t want someone with this sort of background teaching my offspring either..unless they were going to bartending school.

Assuming this characterization of the doctors past is totally accurate, she was often drunk and promiscuous etc, how does that effect her current ability to teach statistics?

With all the brushing off of this alleged assault as being a long time ago and foibles of youth I would think that the woman past would fall into the same aww shuck kid will be kids blanket amnesty.

redleghunter · Sep 21, 2018

DavidPT said:
If I'm not mistaken, didn't she take a lie detector test performed by the FBI, and that she passed it? If yes, has Kavanaugh taken one as well? But if he hasn't, would he be willing to? And what if he did take one, and that he passes it as well, could that not lend credence to the present theory circulating via Ed Whelan, that maybe she was almost raped By his doppelgänger instead, apparently meaning Kavanaugh's Georgetown Prep classmate, Chris Garrett? Apparently it was in Chris Garrett's home where this took place, according to the theory circulating.

The lie detector test was conducted by a retired FBI agent working for her lawyer.

And we have to be careful how the press reports "truthful" as what she was asked was whether or not what she provided of the details was accurate, not asked if truthful.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...thful-polygraph-result-from-kavanaugh-accuser

Hank77 · Sep 21, 2018

Desk trauma said:
That was a question not an assumption

Assuming this characterization of the doctors past is totally accurate, she was often drunk and promiscuous etc, how does that effect her current ability to teach statistics?

With all the brushing off of this alleged assault as being a long time ago and foibles of youth I would think that the woman past would fall into the same aww shuck kid will be kids blanket amnesty.

The bottom half of your post looks like you said it rather than being part of a Quote.

Hank77 · Sep 21, 2018

redleghunter said:
The lie detector test was conducted by a retired FBI agent working for her lawyer.

True it was an exFBI agent, but I didn't read anywhere that they worked for her lawyer. It's more likely that they have their own business. Have you got a source?

redleghunter · Sep 21, 2018

Hank77 said:
True it was an exFBI agent, but I didn't read anywhere that they worked for her lawyer. It's more likely that they have their own business. Have you got a source?

Lawyers hire contractors who do the test. That would be working for.

essentialsaltes · Sep 21, 2018

I can, just barely, imagine him giving an apology and explanation of his change as a human being that would convince me that this is not an automatic disqualification.

Hank77 · Sep 21, 2018

redleghunter said:
Lawyers hire contractors who do the test. That would be working for.

Too bad the IRS doesn't see it that way.

Aldebaran · Sep 21, 2018

essentialsaltes said:
I can, just barely, imagine him giving an apology and explanation of his change as a human being that would convince me that this is not an automatic disqualification.

First, let's see if this woman has any credible proof that Kavanaugh has something he needs to be apologizing for. That would be the first step.

TLK Valentine · Sep 21, 2018

John 12:25 said:
Pretty serious accusations, and this drunken party girl lifestyle that was embraced by her Alma mater is quite damaging to her credibility. This whole thing just stinks of more leftist fabrication to me.

I was waiting for the "She was asking for it" defense.

Afra · Sep 21, 2018

I support neither party. I would not support his nomination if the accusations were proven to be true.

mark kennedy · Sep 21, 2018

TLK Valentine said:
I've head some pretty disturbing defenses, both on the news and around here re: Kavanaugh. Not so much "She's lying"; I expected that. It's the "It doesn't matter" defenses that concern me. "Boys will be boys," "just a kid," "Nothing actually happened," "just a little groping..."

I'm curious about which way the wind is blowing on this one.

Thoughts?

I dont want him confirmed because I think he is a partisan hack, not because of these...let me be discrete here...spurious accusations. He will tow the party line and is the most partisan potential Supreme Court judge in history and that is not intended as hyperbole. No, I dont think he should be confirmed but I don't think Trump desrves to be President. Based on the context of the question I see nothing stopping it. Bottom line the accusations are simply not credible, which pains me to say since I worry that they might be true. Even if true it would have been some boys getting a little frisky and her emerging unharmed. I would rather see a partisan hack in the position then let this be dragged down to the level of scandal mongering that already plaques our political system.

He will weather the storm and emerge with the nomination confirmed if there is any justice. Let it run its full course and let them put it to a vote. I'm not impressed with the allegation and dont approave of scandal mongering.

Go Braves · Sep 21, 2018

Tree of Life said:
I'm not sure why a heinous act committed as a minor 36 years ago should disqualify someone from a high office today. Could you connect those dots?

Had he been 18 instead of 17 when that had made much of a difference to you?

He could be on the bench for another 36 years. I have no problem looking at his record from 36 years back. It has to do with his judgement. The FBI needs to investigate. Seems he'd want to clear his name if he did nothing wrong.

mark kennedy · Sep 21, 2018

Go Braves said:
Had he been 18 instead of 17 when that had made much of a difference to you?

He could be on the bench for another 36 years. I have no problem looking at his record from 36 years back. It has to do with his judgement. The FBI needs to investigate. Seems he'd want to clear his name if he did nothing wrong.

Investigate what? If they have the basis for a criminal investigation there is nothing stopping them. If there is no complaint filed in Maryland then what crime should they be looking into?

redleghunter · Sep 21, 2018

Go Braves said:
Had he been 18 instead of 17 when that had made much of a difference to you?

He could be on the bench for another 36 years. I have no problem looking at his record from 36 years back. It has to do with his judgement. The FBI needs to investigate. Seems he'd want to clear his name if he did nothing wrong.

We have a saying around my parts.

A red fox may fool a one eyed opossum but a Tom cat never.

Go Braves · Sep 21, 2018

mark kennedy said:
Investigate what? If they have the basis for a criminal investigation there is nothing stopping them. If there is no complaint filed in Maryland then what crime should they be looking into?

Investigate the allegations as part of the background check on Kavanaugh.

I directed White House nominations. Of course the FBI can check Kavanaugh again.

All President Trump needs to do is ask for the bureau to continue its background investigation.

Go Braves · Sep 21, 2018

redleghunter said:
We have a saying around my parts.

A red fox may fool a one eyed opossum but a Tom cat never.

The Bible has a saying about being aware of ravening wolves in sheep's clothing.

FireDragon76 · Sep 21, 2018

Tree of Life said:
I'm not sure why a heinous act committed as a minor 36 years ago should disqualify someone from a high office today. Could you connect those dots?

Because it's heinous?

If Kavanaugh were black, we wouldn't even be having this debate.

If the Kavanaugh accusations are true...

...should he be confirmed to the Supreme Court?

I'm a Republican and I say he should.

I'm a Democrat and I say he should.

I'm a Republican and I say he shouldn't

I'm a Democrat and I say he shouldn't.

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