If the flood is true, we all evolved from Noah.

[Yggdrasil]

Anthropology? Not even a science.


All right, I've had too much fun Poeing (is that a word?) you guys. I didn't think it'd be this easy, considering the TE in my profile.

you devil you!

Yeah, I'm not what you would call "sober" right now so yeaaaaahhh didn't notice the sarcasm.

>_>

<_<

 

[mpok1519]

Anthropology is a social science.

 

[FishFace]

the bible doesn't lie, its just very nonspecific and mysterious

At least in this instance there was no lie, because the Bible-authors (sorry AV, God) did not know that there was any world beyond their own. But it's still wrong.

 

[FishFace]

care to continue trying to destroy someone else's faith? Bc that seems to be what most atheists are trying to do for some odd strange reason.

would you like to see the sudden riddance of spirituality on earth? seems like you do.

I think this animation is relevant here:

 

[MoonLancer]

I think everyone's perception of God changes a little bit day to day.

given enough days, the perception of god evolves. I look back a what early Christians did, and I see them as monsters... well enough of them anyway. the god many Christians think they worship today is very different from the god of the Israelites.

Awesome image FishFace.

 

[consol]

Creationism is a curse on mankind, it promotes ignorance and tries to destroy the need for knowledge.

Like water always following the path of least resistance, creationism is the path of least knowledge,
it is always easier to be ignorant, knowledge requires some effort, that's why some children leave
school ignorant, not trying results in ignorance, Goddidit requires no effort whatsoever,
so if a person is brain dead, they find it very easy to believe, because no effort is required.

The drill seems to be this:
Do not think about evolution, do not use your brain, stay as stupid as you are and you will go to heaven,
do not question, believe the bible in it's entirety and you will go to heaven,
remain ignorant for as long as you can, for life if possible, and above all else,
do not believe anything that conflicts with the bible, no matter what,
because the bible is the truth and evolution is the work of the devil.

God does not want people who think for themselves, God only wants idiots,
and the bigger idiot you are, the more God will love you.

 

[mpok1519]

lol funny animation.

i think atheists and christians can coexist just so long as they have something to benefit from each other.

 

[consol]

i think atheists and christians can coexist just so long as they have something to benefit from each other.

No they can't, they are diametrically opposed to each other,
put simply, a Christian believes in MAGIC and an Atheist doesn't.

 

[theFijian]

No they can't (peacefully coexist), they are diametrically opposed to each other,

What so it's a fight to the death? (cue Star Trek music)

 

[consol]

What so it's a fight to the death? (cue Star Trek music)

Not quite, just separation, I am sure they would not like to be around me while I laugh at them,
and I would not like to be around them feeling sorry for them, we would have absolutely nothing in common,
after all, they believe in magic and I don't, what would we have to talk about?

 

[sfs]

Not quite, just separation, I am sure they would not like to be around me while I laugh at them,
and I would not like to be around them feeling sorry for them, we would have absolutely nothing in common,
after all, they believe in magic and I don't, what would we have to talk about?

Well, we could talk about the weather or sports or literature or politics or biology or math or astronomy or photography or drama. You know, stuff human beings talk about.

 

[consol]

Well, we could talk about the weather or sports or literature or politics or biology or math or astronomy or photography or drama. You know, stuff human beings talk about.

With pretty well every subject coloured by religion.

How would you feel about me if you knew I truly believed in Santa Clause?
you would not look at me as if I was completely all there, would you?

Silly to believe in Santa Clause? no more silly than believing in a God, they are both only stories,
magical stories, both conjured up out of someone mind, one a little older than the other, but both the same.

 

[sfs]

With pretty well every subject coloured by religion.

Odd. I can go for years chatting with colleagues about many subjects without knowing their religious beliefs or lack thereof.

How would you feel about me if you knew I truly believed in Santa Clause?

I'd feel that you didn't know how to spell very well.

you would not look at me as if I was completely all there, would you?

Frankly, that's how I feel about you right now. Most people are able to get along with each other just fine, and are content to let differing religious, philosophical and political beliefs alone if they're likely to cause tension. I've known people with all sorts of odd beliefs; the idea that I would be better off simply not talking to such people strikes me as bizarre. You seem to have a bit of a monomania going here.

 

[consol]

Odd. I can go for years chatting with colleagues about many subjects without knowing their religious beliefs or lack thereof.


I'd feel that you didn't know how to spell very well.


Frankly, that's how I feel about you right now. Most people are able to get along with each other just fine, and are content to let differing religious, philosophical and political beliefs alone if they're likely to cause tension. I've known people with all sorts of odd beliefs; the idea that I would be better off simply not talking to such people strikes me as bizarre. You seem to have a bit of a monomania going here.

Perhaps you are right, it's me, I was thinking about creationism, that scares me to death,
that, I would not like to be around, I don't suppose it would bother you,
plus being an American, freaky religions are not unknown to you.

As a Brit we don't see many religious people, but you are obviously at home with them.

 

[mpok1519]

Yes, Christians and atheists CAN coexist and cooperate together towards focusing on a single mutually benefitial goal if they looked past the differences of "believing in magic and I don't". lol People have TONS of things they could talk about even though they disagree on that one basic principle! You act as if Christians and atheists should hate or loathe each others' existence. You act as if earth should be separated at the hemispheres and each side gets their own belief. You act as if Christians and atheists should be quarantined from each other, as if religion is some kind of disease.

Spock: "I'm sorry Jim, but if we do not fight to the death, they will kill us both."

You could learn from Christians, and I'm sure you could teach a Christian a thing or two. Its not a big deal. Adults usually don't judge people based upon their religion or lack thereof. I don't. Adults SHOULDNT because children are the ones who normally judge others for arbitrary and irrelevant things that have nothing to do with the content of one's character.

 

[mpok1519]

Also, the spirit of Santa does exist, and its not within Walmart or Halmark.....

....woah thats kinda reepy that they both sound the same....OooOoooO!

 

[sfs]

Perhaps you are right, it's me, I was thinking about creationism, that scares me to death,
that, I would not like to be around, I don't suppose it would bother you,
plus being an American, freaky religions are not unknown to you.

As a Brit we don't see many religious people, but you are obviously at home with them.

Yes, I'm familiar with religious people (being one myself), and with creationists in particular. They're mostly just people. They include fools, knaves and jackasses like the rest of the species, but many are fine human beings whose friendship and wisdom I value. I just don't want them teaching science to my children.

As far as Santa Claus goes, there might be better analogies available to you. An adult who believes in Santa Claus is likely to be a very odd duck, simply because that belief receives no support from adult society. In contrast, I won't agree with someone who believes in astrology or in lucky numbers, but I don't think they're nuts. They're products of their society, as are we all.

 

[MarcusHill]

One of my best friends is quite unusual among the crowd I hang out with in that he's a devout church-going Christian. He knows I'm a fairly outspoken atheist. Not only does our diametrically opposed worldview on religion not get in the way of our friendship, we can even joke with each other about it.

The reason for this is that we're friends because we have a bunch of things in common. He's a guy who happens to be a Christian, I'm a guy who happens to be an atheist. Although our religious standings are fairly important aspects of our lives (probably more so for him than me), they don't define us.

 

[consol]

Yes, I'm familiar with religious people (being one myself), and with creationists in particular. They're mostly just people. They include fools, knaves and jackasses like the rest of the species, but many are fine human beings whose friendship and wisdom I value. I just don't want them teaching science to my children.

As far as Santa Claus goes, there might be better analogies available to you. An adult who believes in Santa Claus is likely to be a very odd duck, simply because that belief receives no support from adult society. In contrast, I won't agree with someone who believes in astrology or in lucky numbers, but I don't think they're nuts. They're products of their society, as are we all.

That is where we differ, I do not know any religious people, if I do, they have kept it to themselves,
to me it would be like being with a schizophrenic, someone with an invisible friend,
you might not like the terminology, but when you pray, to whom do you pray if not
an invisible friend? you call it God, a schizophrenic might have another name,
you are sure your friend exists and a schizophrenic is just as sure, you will say I am wrong,
but am I? religion must be like a mild form of schizophrenia, and in some cases not so mild,
both have invented someone they need, or do you think your God is real?
Of course that's only my opinion.

I really have no experience of religion, it's just not around, some people go to church to get
married, and when they die, that's about it, on Sunday evening television they usually have a
programme with hymn singing but no more than that, the Muslims are more prominent
than any others, the number of mosques being built is going up.

I have never been to the states, but apparently religion is everywhere, I have been told they even
use it in advertising, I have also been told that if you want to have a successful company it must be
seen to be a God fearing company, even if it's not, and if a person applies for a job
they must say they believe in a God even if they don't, is this right?

I am amazed the president is so vocal about religion, I always thought
religion was a personal thing between a person and their God, but apparently not in the US,
I think that is very wrong because religion then becomes divisive, it is used as a means to
an end, and some of the things I have read about Bush have not always been complimentary.

And I think my analogy stands, you can not deny they are both only stories, no proof has
ever been found or put forward to say anything different, just because a lot of people might
believe in one and not the other does not make either one of them any more true.