If the flood is true, we all evolved from Noah.

[consol]

All the Chinese, Japanese, Africans, Swedes, Eskimos, Mongels, Arabs, all of us are descended from Noah,
amazing when you think about it, that we all evolved into different races,
colours and shapes and sizes, God and his evolution is wonderful, and so quick already.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

All the Chinese, Japanese, Africans, Swedes, Eskimos, Mongels, Arabs, all of us are descended from Noah,
amazing when you think about it, that we all evolved into different races,
colours and shapes and sizes, God and his evolution is wonderful, and so quick already.

You also have to remember that Noah was only 10 generations from Adam and Eve and his wife and his daughters in law were also descended from the same two people only 1,600 years before the flood which makes the amazing diversity of the human race even more improbable.

 

[Fed]

And dark people descended from Ham.

 

[gamespotter10]

All the Chinese, Japanese, Africans, Swedes, Eskimos, Mongels, Arabs, all of us are descended from Noah,
amazing when you think about it, that we all evolved into different races,
colours and shapes and sizes, God and his evolution is wonderful, and so quick already.

its too bad the flood never actually happened

 

[FaithTriumphs]

People adapt to their environments surprisingly fast when they have to really struggle to survive. If we assume the flood was several thousand years ago, that would be plenty of time to develop all these unique attributes for each race.

 

[TheOutsider]

Have I somehow stepped into Bizzaro World? This thread confuses me.

 

[Blayz]

Even more amazing is the way all the marsupial mammals ran away to Australia, and all most of the flightless parrots that occupy the small predator niche quickly winged (sorry walked) their way to the islands in and around New Zealand, and all the placental mammals agreed to keep out of both locations.

 

[USincognito]

People adapt to their environments surprisingly fast when they have to really struggle to survive. If we assume the flood was several thousand years ago, that would be plenty of time to develop all these unique attributes for each race.

White Europeans have lived in South Africa and the Western Hemisphere from 4-500 years.

When can we excpet them to start looking like native Africans or Americans?

 

[Shemjaza]

People adapt to their environments surprisingly fast when they have to really struggle to survive. If we assume the flood was several thousand years ago, that would be plenty of time to develop all these unique attributes for each race.

Personally, I find the concept of the genes of five people being enough to sustain a viable population let alone evolve in to the massive human variety we see in the world in only 270 generations (and that's being generous for 4000 years) very hard to accept.

Wouldn’t that require an enormous rate of mutation? Why didn’t we see human’s adapt at the same rate for the last 1000 years?

 

[USincognito]

Personally, I find the concept of the genes of five people being enough to sustain a viable population let alone evolve in to the massive human variety we see in the world in only 270 generations (and that's being generous for 4000 years) very hard to accept.

Wouldn’t that require an enormous rate of mutation? Why didn’t we see human’s adapt at the same rate for the last 1000 years?

{creationist}

Because they already had the information in their DNA for those variations and in some cases, such as whites not producing as much melanin, it's a loss of information, not a gain.

{/creationist}

 

[ChordatesLegacy]

{creationist}

Because they already had the information in their DNA for those variations and in some cases, such as whites not producing as much melanin, it's a loss of information, not a gain.

{/creationist}

If that is the case, I submit the following.

All creationists are stupid, but this is not their fault, because it was in their DNA, and they have lost the ability to be logical. As a side effect they also act like sheep, flocking to be fleeced by pig ignorant Baptist shepherds.

 

[lemmings]

List of reasons why Noah and his family could not have possibly repopulated the entire planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_disorders

 

[MoonLancer]

thats only because mating is not based on good gens anymore (except for good looks), and because bad genes are kept alive through medical science.

 

[mrswebber]

Sometimes I just get so offended for God, when I read the things you all write. Which really is not at all fair, as you don't believe in him, and so, are doing or saying nothing wrong.
Think it feels like, if someone dis-respects a member of your family. It's just not nice to hear at all.

Anyway, The DNA pull was much stronger then. Hence the reason it is Devolution as opposed to Evolution.
There were only 7 roos to my knowledge, so of course they are all going to go in the same direction. They live in families, just like most animals.

I believe if you count the generations back (I'm trusting someone elses word here) The population of the world is just about bang on, to have originated from just eight people breeding.
Like I often say, I have little knowledge, I just know what I believe.
I believe someday it will all be revealed.

 

[Blayz]

Like I often say, I have little knowledge, I just know what I believe.

A wise man knows his limitations.

I believe someday it will all be revealed.

Reckon you will have enough knowledge to understand it when it is?

 

[MarcusHill]

I believe if you count the generations back (I'm trusting someone elses word here) The population of the world is just about bang on, to have originated from just eight people breeding.

Only if the average number of offspring to survive to breeding age of every single pair of people who so survived was about 2.2, and even that is using the generous 270 generations given above and doesn't take into account major population reducing events such as the Black Death.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Sometimes I just get so offended for God, when I read the things you all write. Which really is not at all fair, as you don't believe in him, and so, are doing or saying nothing wrong.
Think it feels like, if someone dis-respects a member of your family. It's just not nice to hear at all.

Offended for God? It is young earth creationists who say offensive things about God, making him out to be a bungling vicious diety who destroyed his botched creation with a global flood in a fit of pique because He repented that it didn't turn out the way He intended it to.

Anyway, The DNA pull was much stronger then.

DNA pull? What the heck are you talking about. After the creation of Adam and Eve there could have been only 4 alleles of each gene (assuming that Eve wasn't genetically identical to Adam except for being XX rather than XY since she came from his rib). Even if some diversity developed in the short time between creation and the flood we are now cut back to 8 people who were closely related in the first place.

Hence the reason it is Devolution as opposed to Evolution.

Please define devolution and tell us how it got the human race from 8 closely related people to the wide diversity that we see today.

There were only 7 roos to my knowledge, so of course they are all going to go in the same direction. They live in families, just like most animals.

I rather doubt that kangaroos are clean animals since they neither chew the cud or divide the hoof. However, the problem of biogeography is far more than can be solved by the "roos" going off in the same direction. You have to explain how
"kangaroos, tree kangaroos, playtypus, bush tailed possums, echinda, marsupial moles(who are blind and only live in sand), Antechinus(marsupial mice), planigales, bilbies, wallabies, koalas(who only live in Eucalyptus trees and never travel any distances), wombats, numbats, sugar gliders, dunnarts, ninauis, tasmanian tigers, tasmanian devils, phascogales, bandicoots, quols, potoroos and bettongs and other 180 species of Australian marsupials as well as the Australian monotremes (platypus and echidna)
came off the ark in the middle east with
aardvarks, elephant tenrecs, hyraxes, elephants, dugongs, manatee, sloths, armadillos, anteaters, tree shrews, lemurs, bushbarbies, baboons, monkeys, apes, rabbits, pikas, beavers, squirrels, hamsters, porcupines, guinea pigs, pangolins, lemurs, apes, moles, hedgehogs, dogs, cats, leopards, lions, tigers, cheeta, mongooses, otters, badgers, weasels, skunks, raccons, bears, muscrats, wolverines, genets, horses, donkeys, camels, rhinos, pigs, hippos, giraffes, deer, antelope, elk, wildebeest, bison, caribou, cape buffalo, peccaries, tapirs or at least the "kinds" of placental mammals that gave rise to these animals and the 4,000 other species of placental mammals on earth and yet the marsupials and monotremes all ended up in Australia, where they have a fossil record, and the placental mamals, which got distributed all over Europe, Asia, Africa and North and South America did not get to Australia. Many of these placental animals are far more mobile than most of the marsupials and monotremes.

There is no ecological niche occupied by marsupials or monotremes that is not occupied by at least several species of placental mammals. So how did the marsupials and monotremes just happen to be the ones that ended up in Australia where they have a fossil record?

I believe if you count the generations back (I'm trusting someone elses word here) The population of the world is just about bang on, to have originated from just eight people breeding.

And if you use that birth rate as a constant you find there were about 100 people on earth to build the great pyramides and start civilizations all over the world a century of so after the flood. The population growth argument is one of the silliest of the YEC PRATTs and that is saying something.

Like I often say, I have little knowledge, I just know what I believe.

Sorry to say it but if you had more knowledge you might realize how absurd some of the things you claim are.

 

[FishFace]

White Europeans have lived in South Africa and the Western Hemisphere from 4-500 years.

When can we excpet them to start looking like native Africans or Americans?

You know what I say to that?

pwned.

 

[FishFace]

Sometimes I just get so offended for God, when I read the things you all write. Which really is not at all fair, as you don't believe in him, and so, are doing or saying nothing wrong.

This is a debate technique called reductio ad absurdum, which involves adopting one or more of the beliefs of your opponent, and showing that it leads to something absurd. It is a technique employed in all branches of philosophy and also in mathematics (you can prove that there are an infinite number of prime numbers, for example, by assuming that there are a limited number, and showing that this leads to an absurdity.)
Anyway, this means that we're not trying to insult God, we're trying to show that if you were consistent, then you would be forced to make some nasty conclusions about him. There are two solutions - either to stop believing in God, or to believe those nasty conclusions.

Anyway, The DNA pull was much stronger then.

DNA pull is no scientific term. What do you mean?

Hence the reason it is Devolution as opposed to Evolution.

Is gaining the ability to digest nylon devolution?

 

[GoSeminoles!]

People adapt to their environments surprisingly fast when they have to really struggle to survive. If we assume the flood was several thousand years ago, that would be plenty of time to develop all these unique attributes for each race.

Except that the premise is factually wrong. If every living male is a direct descendant of Noah, then every living male should have an identical Y-chromosome. This is the chromosome which is passed directly from the father only to a son. Changes from one generation to the next are very rare for this chromosome, but they happen at a known rate.

See National Geographic's Genographic Project for more. Scientists working on this project have sampled DNA from many thousands of people all over the world. It has helped them piece together the general migratory history of humanity. It looks nothing at all like what we would see if Genesis were a true story. Instead of finding all men with a nearly identical Y-chromosome (which is what we would see if we all descended from Noah about 5,000 years ago), they have found far more variation than can be explained by a mere 5,000 years of human history.


ETA:
A while back I participated in the Genographic Project. I provided them with a cheek swab (and $100) and sent them the sample. They examined the Y-chromosome in the sample and determined that my haplogroup is R1b. A haplogroup is a set of ancestors who share common genetic markers which do not appear on the chromosome of other branches of the human family. I had already known through geneology that my heritage was Irish. Prior to living in Ireland, the ancestors in my haplogroup came from northern Europe and the Iberian penninsula. Prior to that they had migrated from northwest Asia, southern Asia, the Middle East, and eventually east Africa as much as 80,000 years ago. If I am a descendant of a man named Noah who lived in the Middle East 5000 years ago, then there's no evidence of it in my genes.

I also share a common ancestor with Native Americans, except that ancestor lived in central Asia about 40,000 years ago -- before one batch of my ancestors split from the pack and migrated to northeast Asia and eventually North America.

To see the details of my results, go here and enter my ID: FW3474Y438.