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There is nothing to show. You already have the evidence. It just needs to be explained. It's okay with me if you don't believe my explanation since I don't believe yours. I accept your evidence, but I reject your explanation.If you can't show how this interpretation is consistent with the evidence, would it be okay if we don't believe you?
And the interwebz aren't mentioned in the bible, so not sure why you're here?
Absolutely. Can you?What if the evidence could be interpreted to fit a literal Genesis 1, would you accept it as literal?
What if some of us can interpret the evidence to fit a literal Genesis 1, would it be okay with you if we accept it as literal?
Wrong. Most Christians now accept Genesis as just a story. Maybe not in your community, come to Europe and see what we say. The various views among Christians.Truth is often held by the minority.
Back that up with proof Genesis is right.That's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard.
I hope you are not speaking on the behalf of that 99%
We're not sharing what we know, we're sharing what billions have learned.
Show us the one book we keep quoting from to prove that book is right. I can use the bible to show where it contradicts itself.
Are you saying the truth isn't in science and all the evidence that exists, doesn't exist?
Yes I'm saying you are burying your head in a book that's proven wrong, even by using the book. And so far you're unable to offer a shred of evidence you're right. So resorting to pointless posting.
You're the one that said the layers of rock were layers per year. Science is finite, because it is "within" the greater realm of existence. So infinite is in the smaller realm of non existence. Scientific dating is a huge failure. History has proven you wrong. And so on.
Show us one piece of evidence, that's all we ask for. Show us where History has proven us wrong. Then we can have a debate. Or just keep posting we don't understand you.
*RevelationOh yes. Revelations mentions an increase in communications and travel.
So have no fear. God already played this all out.
OK, show how you interpret the evidence.There is nothing to show. You already have the evidence. It just needs to be explained. It's okay with me if you don't believe my explanation since I don't believe yours. I accept your evidence, but I reject your explanation.
So, to sum up what you just said: Science deals in demonstrable reality, Christian's in metaphysical woo-woo.I AM sharing what I "know." That was my point. And there is a big difference between knowing and what many "learn." But, because I have knowledge outside the realm of science, you may want to put that science away long enough to hear it.
So, I am not saying that science is not correct, I am saying it is the wrong area of expertise. Science deals with time, space, and matter. The Christian area of expertise, deals with both matters of science AND beyond. But, if we are to be respectful of each other's area of expertise, I might try to appeal to you on that level, but I do not mean to debate it with you. I do mean, however, to speak for the area outside the realm of science.
As for evidence, I have already said (many times, perhaps not to you), the evidence is not available outside of you, but within you. To have access to the evidence, it is you who need to show proof of your own sincere interest in that other area (beyond science) and a willingness and a capacity to believe it. If you will not come to those terms, you are denied access. If you did not know it, that, is the way the world was designed. So...is there that one piece of evidence within you?
I have no idea what quote you are talking about. Perhaps you mean someone else. Perhaps it's just a bit of information that I am aware of that I said, and you took it as a quote, while I meant it as common knowledge. What is it you are referring to?You copied an argument found on a creationist website. Why would you do that? Why would you go to the least trustworthy source possible, present it, and then pretend as if you aren't leaning one way or the other?
Then explain it and don't just say I have to believe.I AM sharing what I "know." That was my point. And there is a big difference between knowing and what many "learn." But, because I have knowledge outside the realm of science, you may want to put that science away long enough to hear it.
So speak of it and don't ask me to just believe.So, I am not saying that science is not correct, I am saying it is the wrong area of expertise. Science deals with time, space, and matter. The Christian area of expertise, deals with both matters of science AND beyond. But, if we are to be respectful of each other's area of expertise, I might try to appeal to you on that level, but I do not mean to debate it with you. I do mean, however, to speak for the area outside the realm of science.
There you go telling me to ignore everything but what you say.As for evidence, I have already said (many times, perhaps not to you), the evidence is not available outside of you, but within you. To have access to the evidence, it is you who need to show proof of your own sincere interest in that other area (beyond science) and a willingness and a capacity to believe it. If you will not come to those terms, you are denied access. If you did not know it, that, is the way the world was designed. So...is there that one piece of evidence within you?
Even John would of known communications and travel. Were bound to get better. Predictions need to a b a lot more accurate. Jesus made some that never came true.Oh yes. Revelations mentions an increase in communications and travel.
So have no fear. God already played this all out.
Wrong. Christianity, to his extreme, requires you to turn off your brain. He says as much when telling us to ignore the collective learning of a 1,000 years. Christians used to burn people for learning too much.So, to sum up what you just said: Science deals in demonstrable reality, Christian's in metaphysical woo-woo.
Got it.
Since you asked. No, I was trying to be more kind and respectful. It is just the opposite. Science is a closed-circuit activity within a non-time, non-space, non-matter creation conjured up for one purpose and one purpose only: to rid the greater, infinite reality beyond the world, of every little imperfection, once and for all. And, it is finished.So, to sum up what you just said: Science deals in demonstrable reality, Christian's in metaphysical woo-woo.
Got it.
It is common knowledge that was a mistake in the lab, it's also common knowledge it was a very rare one.I have no idea what quote you are talking about. Perhaps you mean someone else. Perhaps it's just a bit of information that I am aware of that I said, and you took it as a quote, while I meant it as common knowledge. What is it you are referring to?
Do you know how insane that sounds, from a person on a computer, on the Internet, because of science. And whose whole life is the result of science?Science is a closed-circuit activity within a non-time, non-space, non-matter creation conjured up for one purpose and one purpose only: to rid the greater, infinite reality beyond the world, of every little imperfection, once and for all. And, it is finished.
Respect for unreasonable, unsupportable, untenable claims is, well silly. Read my sig.Since you asked. No, I was trying to be more kind and respectful. It is just the opposite. Science is a closed-circuit activity within a non-time, non-space, non-matter creation conjured up for one purpose and one purpose only: to rid the greater, infinite reality beyond the world, of every little imperfection, once and for all. And, it is finished.
But if you just want to criticize every attempt to let you in on that timeless, higher level of existence, if you just want to look a gift-horse in the mouth, or spit in there face...then you live until you die and then it's over. Meanwhile, you are not welcome. The choice is yours. But this IS a Christian site, I guess it's not in you to show a little respect.
He speaks as if he's some exalted guru, immune to answering questions or supporting his assertions.Wrong. Christianity, to his extreme, requires you to turn off your brain. He says as much when telling us to ignore the collective learning of a 1,000 years. Christians used to burn people for learning too much.
You are not showing any real receptivity. I completely understand that we don't deserve anything more than your remarks as they are. But I am just not sure you are up for lowering your guard enough to have me tell you the truth and not just get the same response. But I will try, or at least get started, and see if you are willing:Then explain it and don't just say I have to believe.
So speak of it and don't ask me to just believe.
There you go telling me to ignore everything but what you say.
Access to what?
I know the way the world was designed, it was designed to kill as much life on Earth as it can and has done. That evidence is within me, because it's learned. You ask me to undo learning and just take what you say. I ask you to consider science, you need to open up your brain, not heart, soul, spirit. Just the brain, maybe if you do as you ask me, to open up to other things. You might see the truth.
I have more real evidence on my side, all you can tell me is to ignore it and believe what I'm told to.
Even John would of known communications and travel. Were bound to get better. Predictions need to a b a lot more accurate. Jesus made some that never came true.
There are no contradictions in the Bible and nothing has ever been proven to be wrong. There are people who devote their whole life to study the Bible and they still can only begin to understand what a vast source of wisdom, understanding and knowledge there is to be found in the written word of God.I can use the bible to show where it contradicts itself.
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