Whats exactly does this mean, does it mean if we are hit that we have to be loving enough to take it or is it just a saying, and if so how does it relate to the rest of the verses it goes along with. Someone please explain this to me.
May I give an alternative exposition?TryingToLive said:Whats exactly does this mean, does it mean if we are hit that we have to be loving enough to take it or is it just a saying, and if so how does it relate to the rest of the verses it goes along with. Someone please explain this to me.
no retaliation period. retaliation of equal measure would be the eye for eye principle, and Jesus said You have heard eye for eye, but, saying that this is not what you are to do. I like treasure's response.Anti-Fear said:I am not sure what that means exactly, but what is clearly visible from that passage is that no retaliation should be bigger than the offense.
= do unto others...???Anti-Fear said:I am not sure what that means exactly, but what is clearly visible from that passage is that no retaliation should be bigger than the offense.
The 'eye for an eye" verse is refers to the justice system. That's why verse forty directly mentions being sued. You shouldn't retaliate, either legally or morally, where you don't have authority to do so. For example, you don't send you neighbor to their room because they didn't eat all their vegatables.Pilgrim 33 said:= do unto others...???
= an eye for an eye...???
Jesus didn't bring a message of Ghandi-ite passivityherev said:and sooner or later, you run out of cheeks (after 2 or 4 hits)--I agree wholeheartedly!
On the contrary, that's just what he did do, and those who've tried it have shown it is more powerful than guns.Pilgrim 33 said:Jesus didn't bring a message of Ghandi-ite passivity
punches are never needed. Jesus rebuked Peter for cutting off the high priest's servant's ear in self defence.Pilgrim 33 said:Jesus didn't bring a message of Ghandi-ite passivity
besides, if punches are needed it's time for guns.
Very, true.butxifxnot said:punches are never needed. Jesus rebuked Peter for cutting off the high priest's servant's ear in self defence.
Agreed, at least, they're not supposed to be, assuming of course, that muscle on top of the shoulders is properly exercised.butxifxnot said:punches are never needed.
That was not self-defense. That was merely improper muscle exercise.butxifxnot said:Jesus rebuked Peter for cutting off the high priest's servant's ear in self defence.
got you, didn't I?Pilgrim 33 said:Agreed, at least, they're not supposed to be, assuming of course, that muscle on top of the shoulders is properly exercised.
That was not self-defense. That was merely improper muscle exercise.
Jesus advocated neither one way or the other on political Ghandi-ite passivity; about the only thing He had to say on politics was wrapped up in His discourse where He spoke of why we pay taxes.Treasure the Questions said:On the contrary, that's just what he did do, and those who've tried it have shown it is more powerful than guns.
Karin
read the verse.butxifxnot said:umm, sums up right before the turning cheek: "Do not resist an evil person."