if someone allows words or thoughts to pop up in his head, are they valid?

[Kostilaks]

a guy does a specific daily compulsion, almost every day. he does that because his ocd is telling him that he may have made a promise to God to do this ocd compulsion.

one day, the guy in his mind changes the compulsion/promise in not do the compulsion. he does that due to frustration. the thoughts about changing the promise/compulsion into counter-compulsion, are without his will, for a second, but they relieve him so much that he starts doing the new compulsion that forces him not to do the old compulsion. the new compulsion is not to do the old compulsion.

days pass, and everytime ocd is giving him worries about doing the old compulsion, automatically the guy reminds his ocd that he should not do the old compulsion due to the new compulsion/promise which counters the old ocd compulsion.

days pass, and almost automatically for a second, the counter compulsion excuse pops up in his head and he acts as if it counts in order to trick his ocd.

one day, due to anxiety he did the old compulsion and started having worries if he should have done the new compulsion which is not to do the old compulsion because thoughts without his will popped in his head about changing the promise to God not to do the specific old compulsion.

he worries because as days were passing, he avoided doing the tiring old compulsion by using as an excuse a fake promise to God in order not to feel worried. the thoughts about the fake promise were without his will but was he allowing his mind to generate these thoughts on purpose or not?

He knew ocd will make new thoughts without his will that will relieve him, and maybe for a second, that guy was allowing the thoughts without his will to come in his head.

does allowing thoughts without his will counts as the thoughts are with his will? I mean, the guy knows that ocd will create new thoughts about promises to God that somehow will relieve him and that they are without his will, but if, a part of that guy, for a second, on purpose, allows the thoughts to happen and acts as if they matter, does that count as if he is making the thoughts with his will? does that make the thoughts valid? does that make the promises valid because the guy for a second allowed the words to pop up in his head and used them to relieve himself?

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

There is the saying: "We cannot stop birds landing on our heads, but we can stop them making nests there."

 

[eleos1954]

a guy does a specific daily compulsion, almost every day. he does that because his ocd is telling him that he may have made a promise to God to do this ocd compulsion.

one day, the guy in his mind changes the compulsion/promise in not do the compulsion. he does that due to frustration. the thoughts about changing the promise/compulsion into counter-compulsion, are without his will, for a second, but they relieve him so much that he starts doing the new compulsion that forces him not to do the old compulsion. the new compulsion is not to do the old compulsion.

days pass, and everytime ocd is giving him worries about doing the old compulsion, automatically the guy reminds his ocd that he should not do the old compulsion due to the new compulsion/promise which counters the old ocd compulsion.

days pass, and almost automatically for a second, the counter compulsion excuse pops up in his head and he acts as if it counts in order to trick his ocd.

one day, due to anxiety he did the old compulsion and started having worries if he should have done the new compulsion which is not to do the old compulsion because thoughts without his will popped in his head about changing the promise to God not to do the specific old compulsion.

he worries because as days were passing, he avoided doing the tiring old compulsion by using as an excuse a fake promise to God in order not to feel worried. the thoughts about the fake promise were without his will but was he allowing his mind to generate these thoughts on purpose or not?

He knew ocd will make new thoughts without his will that will relieve him, and maybe for a second, that guy was allowing the thoughts without his will to come in his head.

does allowing thoughts without his will counts as the thoughts are with his will? I mean, the guy knows that ocd will create new thoughts about promises to God that somehow will relieve him and that they are without his will, but if, a part of that guy, for a second, on purpose, allows the thoughts to happen and acts as if they matter, does that count as if he is making the thoughts with his will? does that make the thoughts valid? does that make the promises valid because the guy for a second allowed the words to pop up in his head and used them to relieve himself?

One doesn't (shouldn't) make promises to God. God made promises to mankind and He will keep all of them ... and that is what we are to focus on.

Understanding God is learned by studying His Word.

Many "thoughts" enters one head ... they can be rational, emotional and even bizarre.

Every thought that enters your brain is not God driven. God is concerned about sin ... and sin is transgression of His law. The decisions we make outside of sin (thought and/or actions) ... are a non-issue with Him. We have the freewill to sin or not to sin ... and if one accepts Jesus ... He will help us to overcome sin ... it is a process that continues throughout one's lifetime here on earth.

We were created in His image and we were created without sin originally and He wants us to allow Him to work in our lives and overcome sin ... He wants us to turn away from it.

Please go to His Word and learn about the life of Jesus ... He is our example in all things ... and don't apply every thought you have as being God-driven, nor as some kind of a sign from Him. When we receive Jesus, we are asking Him to help change our thoughts and actions in regard to our sin .... outside of that what we think and do is a NON-ISSUE.

Yes, He knows our thoughts .... but not every single thought or action we might take is sinful. Nor are thoughts a "sign(s)" from the Lord. He wants you to become more like Him (in character) ... without sin. We are not robots with God controlling every single thought and/or action that we have or take.

May the Lord bring you peace, understanding and guidance to your mind through reading His Word. Amen

God Bless.