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I did not make a point about evolution. And your child does NOT carry all of your traits, they are not copies of you.Yes they do, they are copies of you, or me. A child is born with two different set of traits mixed together.
But that does not prove your point to evolution, it is just a stone wall to the argument.
I may have misunderstood another of your posts, and I apologize for that. However, I do not believe that evolution says we would share all the traits of something we evolved from. I guess it depends on what you mean by traits - we evolved from very primitive life forms with whom we do not share many characteristics. Perhaps you can clarify what you mean by a "trait"?Not only do i understand it, but I do not think you understand it one bit, if you did, you would see if we evolved from anything, we would share all its traits. The thing is, Humans, only have human traits.
There was a time when "scientists" thought the sun revolved around the earth and the earth was flat. Anyone believing the scientists of today have everything correctly figured out is just as wrong as in the earlier time. The point is that they now know more than they did--they have evolved.
“Cave men” existed ages and ages before the people we call “native Americans.”
You have left out Eastern/Asian civilization when you say there were large gaps in the development of civilization. For instance, during the so called “dark age” of western civilization, China was experiencing a golden age of progress under the Tang Dynasty. What about the Persian empire, the Angkor empire, the Byzantine empire, the mesoamerican empires?
Scroll down in the link to the timeline and you can see all of the civilizations all over the world.
World History Timeline | Essential Humanities
The dark ages were from around 500 -1000 CE, only about 500 years (which were only “dark” in one part of the world.
Dark Ages (historiography) - Wikipedia
Even within western civilization, you jumped from the dark ages to the enlightenment and skipped the Renaissance...?
Anyway, what does this have to do with evolution? Even if a worldwide dark age existed, why would that disprove evolution?
Here's one point being made if man evolved from "cave men" then why were the native americans so much further behind than europe and asia? All of them are humans.
Are you saying some humans evolved faster or differently than other humans? We would be the only species that would have had so drastically different evolutions just by going a few thousand miles over an ocean.
Basically if any human group would have been cave men it wouldnhave been native americans and even they were fairly civilized.
What I'm saying is, is evolution does not exist.
We did not descend from any other things but humans.
You seem, repeat seem, to be implying that evolution will be discarded just as the flat earth idea was discarded. For a variety of reasons, I think this is unlikely. I hope to elaborate in a subsequent post.There was a time when "scientists" thought the sun revolved around the earth and the earth was flat. Anyone believing the scientists of today have everything correctly figured out is just as wrong as in the earlier time. The point is that they now know more than they did--they have evolved.
Yahweh weeps.
So you say you didn’t mention other cultures to save time but those other cultures filled your “gaps.” So I’m not sure why you thought the prescience of gaps in cultural development disprove evolution, but there really aren’t any long gaps in human progress. Cultures and empires rise and fall, but humans are certainly progressing. Where exactly were these “gaps?” I think they were few and far between, unless you ignore eastern civilization.The dark ages are usually said to have exusted from 500AD - 1500AD but I do agree that's a tad to far and it's more like 800 years instead of 1000.
I did give a hat tip to the Renaissance when I said "religious reform" but didn't use the word. No I didn't take the time to talk every point in history. That would take forever £I did however mention asian cultures as being more adavanced than native americans.
Here's one point being made if man evolved from "cave men" then why were the native americans so much further behind than europe and asia? All of them are humans. Are you saying some humans evolved faster or differently than other humans? We would be the only species that would have had so drastically different evolutions just by going a few thousand miles over an ocean. Basically if any human group would have been cave men it wouldnhave been native americans and even they were fairly civilized.
Are cats from american more or less evolved than cats from europe. No, they simply evolved into cats, if evolution existed that is.
What I'm saying is, is evolution does not exist. We did not descend from any other things but humans. I do believe however men can become more intelligent or have periods of "darkness" so to speak. It is very clear that there is chunks and gaps in history where man did not progress but would then have huge periods of progress.
That may sound close to evolution but that's is not what I'm saying.
I may have misunderstood another of your posts, and I apologize for that. However, I do not believe that evolution says we would share all the traits of something we evolved from. I guess it depends on what you mean by traits - we evolved from very primitive life forms with whom we do not share many characteristics. Perhaps you can clarify what you mean by a "trait"?
I did not make a point about evolution. And your child does NOT carry all of your traits, they are not copies of you.
Yes when I say cave man I mean neanderthals walking around with clubs going 'ugh'.So you say you didn’t mention other cultures to save time but those other cultures filled your “gaps.” So I’m not sure why you thought the prescience of gaps in cultural development disprove evolution, but there really aren’t any long gaps in human progress. Cultures and empires rise and fall, but humans are certainly progressing. Where exactly were these “gaps?” I think they were few and far between, unless you ignore eastern civilization.
Obviously different cultures advance at different paces and in different ways. What does that have to do with biological evolution? Native American humans are no less evolved biologically than European humans. The biggest difference you see biologically is that humans that evolved in different areas are different foods and we see some differences in the bodies’ responses to certain foods.
Please explain why “gaps” in cultural progress disprove biological evolution, and how they disprove that humans are related to apes.
I’m attaching a link to “caveman” in Wikipedia so that you can see cavemen are something depicted in art and literature but not an actual thing. I took your post to refer to the Neanderthal, is that correct?
Caveman - Wikipedia
Then they would be a clone. This is pretty elementary. Obviously your child does not look exactly like you and does not have the same DNA. Besides, according to your odd argument, wouldn’t you need to have all of the same traits as your great great great great grandfather?Yes they are complete copy's of me in every way, I have children and until you do, you have no clue on what you are saying unless, you do have children and completely ignore them?
Then they would be a clone. This is pretty elementary. Obviously your child does not look exactly like you and does not have the same DNA. Besides, according to your odd argument, wouldn’t you need to have all of the same traits as your great great great great grandfather?
Yes they are complete copy's of me in every way,
Yes when I say cave man I mean neanderthals walking around with clubs going 'ugh'.
I think you have misunderstood me and me you, possibly. I am not saying that the periods of, we'll say, 'super intelligence' or 'progress' followed by periods of what seems to be overall a decline in intelliegence disproves evolution in itself.
I am just simply saying these things happened. Yes while the europeans were 'progressing' Asia may have not been. That would be a decline for them.
It could be argued that humans seem to operate on a wave of up swings and down swings. I just don't believe humans descended from apes on any level or believe that man was ever a neanderthal saying 'ugh'.
Even in the most uncivilized form, such as native americans
Ok I can’t tell if this is satire or you are serious because you are making ridiculous statements that anyone who has taken biology 101 can refute. So I’ll just leave the convo where it is and encourage you to read a bit about evolution and genetics.They are clones, of me and my ex wife,
I do have all the same traits of my grandfather also, looks and thoughts and actions and the way we live.
Twins who never meet married the same named husbands, wears the same kind of clothes and says the same things the same way, lives in the same type of house and buys the same type of cars, the same color of house in every way.
They both have the same traits, there is way more to genes and dna and traits then you know.
No.Yes they are complete copy's of me in every way
It's not necessarily physical strength that a female looks for. It could emotional strength; intellectual strength; financial strength; even "makes me laugh" strength.A female mate is able to distinguish particular strengths in her partner she would like to mate with, what are you saying it has nothing to do with strength for?
What makes you think that? I accept that apes and man have common ancestors. That doesn't mean I go looking to apes for "inspiration".A teacher knowing he is from "an ape", is compelled to seek inspiration from the ape
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