If I came to a Babtist church and did the following

[Flynmonkie]

I have found the verse you are referring to ... which you should always have all the weapons at your disposal before you go into battle ... it is 2 Maccabees 12:39-46
"And making a gathering, he (Judas) sent twelve thousand drachmas of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection," & continuing " It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins." ... now for the dismantling of the verse ... first & most importantly this particular verse is part of the Apocrypha & not from the majority of the Bible that most Baptists & Catholics could agree on ... finally, the Apocrypha wasn't even recognized by the early Catholic church ... it wasn't till 1546 AD and the Council of Trent that it was added and it was added because parts of it agreed with practices the Catholic church wanted to act upon (i.e. praying for the dead, the idea of purgatory, and the ultimate reason for the separation of all Protestants & Catholics - indulgences (the belief that one could pay for sins & be forgiven by a man)

Ok, in this verse could you not read it as "Dead" = unsaved? Than literally Dead? What makes this verse exist as proof of Purgatory?

 

[Gear853]

I have found the verse you are referring to ... which you should always have all the weapons at your disposal before you go into battle ... it is 2 Maccabees 12:39-46
"And making a gathering, he (Judas) sent twelve thousand drachmas of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection," & continuing " It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins." ... now for the dismantling of the verse ... first & most importantly this particular verse is part of the Apocrypha & not from the majority of the Bible that most Baptists & Catholics could agree on ... finally, the Apocrypha wasn't even recognized by the early Catholic church ... it wasn't till 1546 AD and the Council of Trent that it was added and it was added because parts of it agreed with practices the Catholic church wanted to act upon (i.e. praying for the dead, the idea of purgatory, and the ultimate reason for the separation of all Protestants & Catholics - indulgences (the belief that one could pay for sins & be forgiven by a man)

good founding good founding!

 

[dave90]

As previously alluded to, we of the BaBtist denomination do believe in purotory. We hold to the salvation of kittens, where they can purr for all time.

We also hold to a post-mealenean rapture, which accounts for the wearing of the Babs.

As to our view of the Apocrypha, we are pacifists, and as such opposed to all canons. For the same reason we permit no rosaries or other necklaces, lest someone get too heated during an argument and misuse these items. We still mourn "the Day of the Garrote" when those thoroughly un-humorous Presbytereans wrung the necks of thousands of us.

JR (a Presby)

sorry for the misspelling of Baptist my fellow Bresbyterian christian......................................................................................lol, J/K.

 

[RED that's ME]

lol You're forgiven

I don't have so much of a problem when a non-Baptist person does it but when an actual Baptist member misspells it....that's one of my peeves. It's like misspelling your own name.

If a member accidentally misspells it especially in the thread title, they can always PM one of the Baptist staff members and get them to edit/change it.


B-A-P-T-I-S-T that's the group for me.