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A wrong hypothesis cannot ever be proven anyway, so what you hypothesize will not happen with true believers of God. Any error, to be recognized and corrected, needs to be counteracted by absolute truth. That is my answer.
So what absolute truth would it take for you to recognize that you were never a true believer of God; but were worshipping something else; a fraud all this time? And would you be willing to accept this "absolute truth"? Or would you reject the truth because you've invested too much of your life in a lie?
Ken
I was an atheist and I was convinced later on by my experiences and the reality around me that God is who He claims to be in the Bible. Some people refuse to be convinced because they have pride or stubbornness in their heart. As much as God gives the ability to understand Him, God also does not forbid resistance to His counsel. No truth can be forced on someone in denial or stubbornness, and this is not God's fault.
I believe in the absolute oneness of truth. Lies can have many versions, but the truth only has one version. For something to be absolute truth, it must surpass everything else that claims to be truth and prove them completely false. Anything short of this will not convince me.
God already offered that awareness through the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is now recorded in the biblical canons. There have not been a single men in history who did not become aware of God despite earnestly seeking to know Him. In fact, biblical accounts are full of records of non-Israelites who were considered believers because of faith. No doubt these people can't have faith without actively seeking the truth since they didn't even have Moses' Law or the OT.You have not refuted my point. All I said was if God can do anything, he can convince a non believer of the truth. Now if the non believer chose to ignore, reject, or refuse to follow God, that is his choice; but he can be made aware of who God is assuming he existed.
Ken
A lie will always be exposed as false, one day or another. Absolute truth will always stand the test of time and by testing it you will know it.And how are you supposed to recognize this "absolute oneness of truth" when you have been believing a lie all this time?
Ken
Those are just unsubstantiated claims with zero credibility.God already offered that awareness through the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is now recorded in the biblical canons.
Have you asked every man in history? Then how do you know this? More unsubstantiated claims with zero credibility.There have not been a single men in history who did not become aware of God despite earnestly seeking to know Him.
A lie will always be exposed as false, one day or another. Absolute truth will always stand the test of time and by testing it you will know it.
So here's a question for all to ponder: Suppose that God manifests himself in some sort of physical or spiritual revelation, to you personally, you and a group of people, or to the entire planet. How would you know that this was God? How would you know, for instance, that it wasn't some sort of alien with super-advanced technology pretending to be God?
A follow-up question for antitheists: If a personal manifestation/appearance of God wouldn't prove to you that God exists (since there could always be another explanation - aliens or whatever), then what sort of proof would you accept that God exists?
You have not refuted my point. All I said was if God can do anything, he can convince a non believer of the truth. Now if the non believer chose to ignore, reject, or refuse to follow God, that is his choice; but he can be made aware of who God is assuming he existed.
Ken
Those are just unsubstantiated claims with zero credibility.
Have you asked every man in history? Then how do you know this? More unsubstantiated claims with zero credibility.
Ken
we were talking about if God is capable of convincing a skeptic of his existence; not about if someone refuses to believe or not.Interestingly, scripture indicates that if a person truly does not want to believe, God then gives him what he wants: An utterly convincing delusion.
He would speak the words of Jesus, do the deeds of Jesus, and give all glory to the Father like Jesus.
we were talking about if God is capable of convincing a skeptic of his existence; not about if someone refuses to believe or not.
I don't think you could know it was God.
It wouldn't be able to prove it created the universe, but if it can seem omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, and good, then does it matter if it made the universe?
If there is a God, is religious reverence right, or should God be considered fundamentally our equal? I think the latter might be best.
I think that it's ultimately impossible to convince anyone of anything because there's always an alternate explanation, so no matter how much evidence is given it just wouldn't matter. People could claim that it was an alien with super-advanced technology that we just couldn't understand or something like that and no-one would be able to refute it.
So you can't be convinced by something through the five senses. The convincing has to come from the inside.
I disagree! If God knows all things; he will know what it will take to convince an atheist, a skeptic, or any doubter of who he is. If he is unable to do that; why call him God???
K
What do you mean - "God"?So here's a question for all to ponder: Suppose that God manifests himself in some sort of physical or spiritual revelation, to you personally, you and a group of people, or to the entire planet. How would you know that this was God? How would you know, for instance, that it wasn't some sort of alien with super-advanced technology pretending to be God?
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