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Because that's how Christians have rolled throughout history. And if Jesus came back today, walking the slums and talking to the strippers, gang-bangers, illegal immigrants and junkies, the publicly praying, God-affirming, Bible thumping Republicans would be the first to condemn him as a communist hippie impostor. Because everybody KNOWS that the ones Jesus cares about are healthy white suburbanites and filthy rich guys like Donald Drumpf or Mitt Romney.
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From a Chinese point of view, yes, Moses lead his people out. You have to convince Chinese that God is behind it.
I trust the creator of the universe can pull it off.
Here is a vision: The Middle East is united by the human Messiah, then the War of Armageddon begins. That is: if your Messiah indeed come, then Israel will be attacked again in a much bigger way.

You are mixing your Christianity in with my Judaism.
 
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One word: Antichrist. They will believe he is that guy.

That is true ..the test will be how many Christians will heed Jesus warnings ... To not go after him... To continue to keep the faith .... To love our enemies .. And above all do not judge and condemn the Jews for this action ...nor go to war with them to take away their land

...the law would be their judge ... The law is a blessing or a curse.. blessing if obeyed properly curse if broken ...
 
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If this flow of migrants increases there will not not be anyone in ME left to unite, just a pile of rubble.

Don't worry. Your Messiah will call them back very quickly. Then the US will be in high alert.
 
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On a side note, and spoken like a cynic: isn't it strange how religious leaders have established a tradition of denouncing others who might try to pull the same tricks as they did as impostors and agents of evil?
Christianity denounces potential competitors as "anti-christs", Islam declares that anyone who comes after the "seal of the prophets" must be a fraud, Baha'i makes sure to point out that the next revelation will take at LEAST a thousand years to arrive, etc.

I think we could even find some Non-Abrahamic faiths where this approach is practiced, although it seems to be the most prevalent among the exclusivist, proselytizing monotheisms.

Logically, that is the way it should be.
 
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Logically, that is the way it should be.
Not really, no.
The thing is: truth needs no special protection against competitors - quite the contrary.
Instead of insisting that anybody who challenges or contradicts your teachings should be instantly regarded as a fraud, an enemy, or an impostor, you should encourage people to test your ideas for their veracity, proving their accuracy in the process.
That's how the scientific method handles things, and it has proven to be exceptionally effective at weeding out misconceptions and refining our understanding of reality.
 
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Don't worry. Your Messiah will call them back very quickly. Then the US will be in high alert.

Doubt it very much.
In my wild fantasy, I see it as pre- orchestrated, the whole insanity of it.

What is so special about the US, it is just another nation,
the rug can be pulled out from beneath it's feet at any moment.
 
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You believe the Christian nations will rise up against rabbinic Judaism messiah ? Why will they rise up against him if he is the prince of peace ?
All nations will rise against the Jews before the messiah comes. Israelnwill stand alone as the Arabs supported by Gentiles will be trying to destroy Israel. Just at the point where all hope is lost then the messiah will come and as he did with the Egyptians during the time of Moses israels enemies will be destroy.
 
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Not really, no.
The thing is: truth needs no special protection against competitors - quite the contrary.

Agree. In Christianity, there is no role of competitor. God is not contestable.
Evil is doing things against God. But Evil is not able to compete with God. (If you think Evil is stupid, then you are wrong too. Evil is extremely smart)
 
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All nations will rise against the Jews before the messiah comes. Israelnwill stand alone as the Arabs supported by Gentiles will be trying to destroy Israel. Just at the point where all hope is lost then the messiah will come and as he did with the Egyptians during the time of Moses israels enemies will be destroy.

If you're talking about Judaism, make sure you aren't implying that the Messiah will, under his own power, accomplish these kinds of things. The Messiah is not divine in Judaism.
 
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Because that's how Christians have rolled throughout history. And if Jesus came back today, walking the slums and talking to the strippers, gang-bangers, illegal immigrants and junkies, the publicly praying, God-affirming, Bible thumping Republicans would be the first to condemn him as a communist hippie impostor. Because everybody KNOWS that the ones Jesus cares about are healthy white suburbanites and filthy rich guys like Donald Drumpf or Mitt Romney.

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If you're talking about Judaism, make sure you aren't implying that the Messiah will, under his own power, accomplish these kinds of things. The Messiah is not divine in Judaism.
I did not know that. The messiah will be a general or something like that
 
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