If God commands me to murder then.
If I believe God commands me to murder someone, I should do it?
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God's command is not to murder.
The question you asked was not about whether we should kill if we believe that God has commanded, but about how we should respond if God has commanded us to kill. If God has commanded Muslims to kill infidels, then they are in the right to do so.
God can lie?
Suppose it is not one man, but a group of men? A country?
I don't understand why we would require proof that God is commanding someone to commit homicide, but in other cases where we speak to God we take for granted that it really is God.
The Canaanites?
When Moses killed an Egyptian it was against the law, and Moses knew it. He fled.
So if God commands to me to commit murder I should do it?
God cannot lie. It's not just His preference not to lie, He can't lie. Whatever God says is true just by the act of Him saying it. There is power in the God's words. If God were to say JGG is a frog, you would instantly become a frog.
If God truly command something then it ought to be obeyed regardless of the number of people involved.
God has given a commandment "Thou shalt not kill" (were "kill" means murder or unjust killing). Now, if God were to command someone to kill, then the one being told would need to be absolutely sure that it was God who was commanding it, because only God can override His standing commands. And, with such a command, it would no longer be murder.
They were not killed because of their ethnicity.
Indeed, Moses committed murder and it was wrong of him to do so.
God is the ultimate authority and He is just, so everything He commands is lawful, thus it is contradictory to say that He can command something that is unlawful. If God commanded you to justly administer the death penalty, then you should do it.
God also commanded me not to kill people. Who am I to refuse that command?
How would you know?
If I believed God commanded me to kill someone, but you did not agree, would it still be a sin for me to deny God?
Again, he commanded Abraham. He commanded Moses. He commanded the Israelites. How can we say He would not command you or me? How can we say He has not commanded others we have condemned?
But what if God lied with the intention of lying? Couldn't God also tell me I'm a frog while not actually turning me into a frog?
How would I make sure that it was really God? Why wouldn't I make sure that all of my commands came from God, why would I wait until I was asked to kill someone?
Suppose God didn't tell me, suppose God told my pastor to lead us in glorious warfare against the people at ComicCon? My pastor would certainly assure me that God has commanded us to annihilate the geeks. Do I go forth and do it?
God commanded Abraham to kill Isaac. God commanded Moses to murder. God commanded the Israelites to commit genocide. God would not command murder or genocide again?
Who indeed? I was only answering your hypothetical; I was not implying God would or has recently commanded anyone to kill someone else. In fact, because of the command to which you refer above, I don't believe God would now command any individual to kill another.
The revelation of Scripture tells me so.
But, you see, I wouldn't agree that you were denying God. And this wouldn't just be my opinion. I would be able to refer to an objective source (the Bible) to show that my belief was warranted.
And the contexts within which those commands were given? Do you know what they were? Do you know why New Testament Christians do not adhere to the Old Testament covenant between Israel and Jehovah within which Jehovah-God's commands were issued?
For some reason - ignorance mainly (and perhaps laziness, too), I think - non-Christians like to cherry-pick passages from the OT and impose them prescriptively upon NT believers as though there is no difference between the OT theocracy of Israel and the NT Christian Church. But there is a vast difference! And that difference makes all the difference when considering your line of questioning here.
And the contexts within which those commands were given? Do you know what they were? Do you know why New Testament Christians do not adhere to the Old Testament covenant between Israel and Jehovah within which Jehovah-God's commands were issued? For some reason - ignorance mainly (and perhaps laziness, too), I think - non-Christians like to cherry-pick passages from the OT and impose them prescriptively upon NT believers as though there is no difference between the OT theocracy of Israel and the NT Christian Church. But there is a vast difference! And that difference makes all the difference when considering your line of questioning here.
Selah.
What would be God's hypothetical motive for lying or telling you to kill?
God is not going to do these things without also making you certain.
And, if He wants me to go along with what He has told you to do, He would also have to make it certain to me.
Otherwise, I'm sticking with His previous command.
Not without a newer Covenant.
But what if God lied with the intention of lying? Couldn't God also tell me I'm a frog while not actually turning me into a frog?
How would I make sure that it was really God? Why wouldn't I make sure that all of my commands came from God, why would I wait until I was asked to kill someone?
Suppose God didn't tell me, suppose God told my pastor to lead us in glorious warfare against the people at ComicCon? My pastor would certainly assure me that God has commanded us to annihilate the geeks. Do I go forth and do it?
Is there something in the new Covenant that we know God would not ask this of us?
As has already been stated, there is more to go on than your pastor's assertion.
Yes. Have you read it?
Yes. I don't remember anything that said God would not command us to kill each other.
You must have missed this one: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. John 13:34.
Maybe you also missed these:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5
Those are the last commands we Christians got--our current standing orders, our current "Constitution." If someone is proposing that God has said something different, he's going to have to provide a lot of evidence.
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