If Evolution were true...

[rjc34]

From Evolution strawmen - CreationWiki, the encyclopedia of creation nonsense

• General theory of evolution [Darwinism]: the speculation that all life originated through purely natural processes without any act of creation (abiogenesis). It is theorized that all life on Earth originated from a single ancestral cell (common ancestry). All the biological complexity, adaptivity, and artistry on the planet is solely the result of random changes and natural selection over billions of years.

This is literally the single worst straw man for evolution I have ever seen. This 'general theory of evolution' doesn't even exist. It's a nice Kent Hovind creation (yes, the Kent Hovind with a unaccredited diploma-mill 'PhD' in 'christian education')

So posting this just makes you look like more of a fool. Heck, it's not even a true wiki as you have to apply to edit it. Of course if you make any edits that aren't kosher with their status quo they'll kick you out like a stray cat.

The distinction between these two uses of the word "Evolution" is important, because creationism acknowledges that biological evolution is a true and scientific reality, but argues that the theory of evolution is a speculative farce, overwhelmingly discredited by the scientific evidence.

Aren't encyclopedias just supposed to 'state the facts'? Oh wait, it's run by creationists who feel they have to use ad theorum, ad lapidem statements to qualify their 'arguments' (what? there was no argument? just an absurd and blind statement?)

Absolutely nothing in that article has any basis in reality, and if you think it does, I seriously feel sorry for you.

Now, here's a real, reliable and accurate representation of evolution. It's about 30 times longer, infinite times more accurate, and includes almost 300 references from reputable, respected sources. In it you'll find an encyclopedic (that is what they're for, right?) summary of evolution, as well as links to similar articles going into much greater details about the sub-topics in the article.

 

[rjc34]

I wouldn't know -- I'm ignorant, remember?

That's why I'm asking you to just move along and let us be this one time.

By all means, don't let me interrupt this intellectual discussion by pointing out where the Bible says you're wrong.

Interrupting a discussion about how the bible is not infallible... by quoting the bible? Man, that should sound absurd even to the likes of yourself.

 

[AV1611VET]

What the...?

When did I ever have the goalposts anywhere else? I have NEVER said that the Earth or the universe is only 6000 years old! Don't misrepresent me.

I said, 'unless' -- didn't I?

 

[AV1611VET]

That's why I'm asking you to just move along and let us be this one time.

Join Date: 22nd February 2011

My friend, there are those who have put up with me (and others) for five years.

Request denied -- I hope you can see why.

 

[Tiberius]

I said, 'unless' -- didn't I?

You think I am going to move the goalposts to where they have been all along? Where did I ever say that for the purposes of the OP I was assuming a 6000 year old unverse?

 

[dad]

Youa re claiming that if evolution was true there would be no life?

Yes, in the way that evolution is usually thought of....that a first life form started it all. That is hogwash.

Do you realise that evolution has nothing to do with how life started? How many times must you be told this? Why do you keep bringing up the same rubbish over and over again?

So where did the evolving start, speaking of rubbish?

 

[rjc34]

Join Date: 22nd February 2011

My friend, there are those who have put up with me (and others) for five years.

Request denied -- I hope you can see why.

And they have all asked you to leave as well. You ignore them and only reply to me as I have been here the least amount of time.

You know very well your post count and join date mean nothing, and give you no justification to stay here and gum up the gears of progress; for she will march on with you there, but move much more quickly with you gone.

 

[Tiberius]

dad, how many times do we have to tell you?

EVOLUTION SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHERE LIFE CAME FROM, ONLY HOW IT HAS CHANGED!​

Maybe this time you'll actually see it when I write it...

 

[dad]

dad, how many times do we have to tell you?

EVOLUTION SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHERE LIFE CAME FROM, ONLY HOW IT HAS CHANGED!​

Maybe this time you'll actually see it when I write it...

You can say it till you are blue in the face for all I care. So when did life start changing, and from what? No wiggling permitted.

 

[rjc34]

dad, how many times do we have to tell you?

EVOLUTION SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHERE LIFE CAME FROM, ONLY HOW IT HAS CHANGED!​

Maybe this time you'll actually see it when I write it...

Nope.... good try though!

I blocked him a few days ago, yet I still feel compelled to look at his posts, just because of a single coherent one he posted in another thread. (Actually it was mostly just a quote from another side, but Nathan Poe actually had to elicit a thoughtful response to it.

 

[AV1611VET]

And they have all asked you to leave as well.

Links, please?

 

[driewerf]

A daisy-chain of fossils.

Cyanobacteria → man in only 6000 years should leave a linked trail of fossils.

Unless, of course, you're going to move the goalposts now and claim deep-time.

So, AV1611VET, are we moving the goalposts. I have to remind you that you already answered the quetsion from the OP.

IF evolution was true, what would we see that we DON'T see in the world around us?

A jillion fossils -- the earth, if scanned by aliens from space, should appear to be one big graveyard.

Well, we see your jillions and jillions of fossils. The cliffs of Dover and Calais are nothing but Coccolithophores. In stead of admiiting defeat, like any decent man would do, you just move the goaplosts, like a christian is used to do. Once more it is very clear that biblical literalists can stand their ground only through deceit, lies and dishonesty.

Well, here you have "jillions" an "jillions" of fossil coccoliths.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, we see your jillions and jillions of fossils. The cliffs of Dover and Calais are nothing but Coccolithophores. In stead of admiiting defeat, like any decent man would do, you just move the goaplosts, like a christian is used to do. Once more it is very clear that biblical literalists can stand their ground only through deceit, lies and dishonesty.

Where's my daisy-chain, Mr False Accuser?

You seemed to have lost a major part of my point, didn't you? or did you do it on purpose?

Also, didn't I mention that the earth should be one big graveyard?

Do you see Coccolithophores all over the earth?

 

[driewerf]

Where's my daisy-chain, Mr False Accuser?

You seemed to have lost a major part of my point, didn't you? or did you do it on purpose?

Also, didn't I mention that the earth should be one big graveyard?

Do you see Coccolithophores all over the earth?

A gentle reminder: you posted your 'jiliions-post' on march the 17th, and I posted the picture of the Cliffs of Dover the same day.
You posted your daisy chain on the 19th, so two days after your initial challenge was met. So yes sir, your are moving the goalposts.

As for the whole earth coverd by fossils. We have already the said chalk formations. We have the bottom of the oceans were tons of formas are found. We find fossils from the highlands of Pakistan to the desert of the Sahara, from Souht America to China. So yes, the whole earth is covered with fossils.

 

[rjc34]

Links, please?

Sorry, that was in the Bible-Creation-Evolution thread in which you have decided to try to run into the ground. This one is already well off the tracks, but I wish you luck in turning it into a big hulking pile of smoking twisted metal.

(Maybe you can melt it down and make some new goalposts. You know, ones that are cemented in place and can't move)

 

[sandwiches]

You can say it till you are blue in the face for all I care. So when did life start changing, and from what? No wiggling permitted.

We don't know and neither do you.

 

[dad]

We don't know and neither do you.

Ha! Quite an admission.

Never mind what I know. I know God created the earth. I do not know that by your present science. So you are not qualified to comment on it.

 

[sandwiches]

Ha! Quite an admission.

Quite an admission? Lol
You have so much growing up to do still.

Never mind what I know. I know God created the earth. I do not know that by your present science. So you are not qualified to comment on it.

So, bottom line: I was right. You don't know.

Got it.

 

[dad]

Quite an admission? Lol
You have so much growing up to do still.


So, bottom line: I was right. You don't know.

Got it.

No. The point is you admit not knowing. Whether anyone else knows or not is out of your depth obviously.

 

[Tiberius]

Never mind what I know. I know God created the earth. I do not know that by your present science. So you are not qualified to comment on it.

I guess that means that since you don't know how science works, you aren't qualified to comment on it either.