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This seems to be quite an assertion, one which I have never seen evidence for. I agree that millions of people a day might claim that god is speaking to them, but how would an objective observer measure this?I'm sure you do... anything to try to stop the "God" problem... won't happen, though. God still talks and people still hear. It is the sane ones that really hear God. Millions of people on the earth hear God. It's a dilemma (for you) and you'll never be able to stop it.
This seems to be quite an assertion, one which I have never seen evidence for. I agree that millions of people a day might claim that god is speaking to them, but how would an objective observer measure this?
Then let me be frank.
I get feelings and think it is God talking to me.
If you 'have a pill for that', as you say you have, then I submit that is a form of persecution.
Given that nature approves of diversity, there is no good reason why (some)% of our species do not show perfect evolutionary path or progression from one species to a very distant one. Or "Evolved" one. Each member could exist in a different environment.
The second one would be an organic source for DNA or some other language or code for life. Lets say an ocean floor vent spewing an endless string of DNA code and a random way.
There should be millions of such examples to show how language, DNA, or a symbolic code of some kind could be produced. There are none. Symbolism is the product of Intelligence.
Rocks or snowflakes don't pass on genes. Which can only come from the development of some language, which requires a source of intelligence to be created. Reality is support enough.
Well, if evolution were true, we wouldn't see anything that we DON'T see in the world around us because it would take thousands or millions of years for it to happen and WE would no longer be around to see something new or that we DON'T already see in the world around us.
I know that sounds like a riddle but based on that question isn't that true? I'm not trying to be a wise guy. Maybe I am just NOT getting the question.
If you 'have a pill for that', as you say you have, then I submit that is a form of persecution.
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And for the record, Christian psychiatrists have ways of making sure atheist psychiatrists don't get a chance to diagnose someone against his will.
It's not the medicine I'm harping about -- it's the prognoses.Why don't we dial back the criticism of legitimate medicine, please? Taken much further, you could be implying that people should ignore psychiatrists.
It's not the medicine I'm harping about -- it's the prognoses.
This seems to be quite an assertion, one which I have never seen evidence for. I agree that millions of people a day might claim that god is speaking to them, but how would an objective observer measure this?
The same way an objective observer measures a persons sincerity or opinion or view point or character or integrity or thought. Everything is not to be measured by science. Science has it's place but it is by no way the whole of life. Life has many facets and science is just one of them. <snip>
And they need help.It's okay to have an opinion, but this is a public forum and there may be people watching who suffer from psychiatric conditions.
And they need help.
Have you been following this thread at all?
And for the record, Christian psychiatrists have ways of making sure atheist psychiatrists don't get a chance to diagnose someone against his will.
(And if you think it's not done against his will, then you don't live around here.)
Neither does God.
I know people hear voices or get feelings and think it is God talking to them but we have pills for that now.
How is giving someone medication for a neurological disorder "persecution"?
Worse actually. How is the mere existence of medication for a neurological condition persecution? EXTRA
Often those with neurological disorders of some sort or another are treated against their will. That is because they aren't in their right mind and cannot decide for themselves.
Yeah, where you claim that schizophrenics really are hearing the voice of God?
Science can take on anything/anyone that makes a claim.
Does this 'voice of God' provide any information you did not already have, subconsciously or not?
No? Dismissed as imagination, no matter how real it feels. That's is just how the human brain has evolved to work. Very suggestible.
Yes? Can that information be verified and can it be repeated? You would rock the scientific world.
Nothing yet.
Myself, if I thought I was hearing the 'voice of God' I would ask how find missing children. Cure diseases. Help out on the Unified Theory of everything. The world would change....
Okay, don't get me wrong. I firmly believe that evolution is a fact.
But for the creationists out there who don't believe that evolution is a fact, I have a question for you.
IF evolution was true, what would we see that we DON'T see in the world around us?
I have answered in other threads that I support creation and then micro-evolution; that is evolution within species.
Well, then I guess you will have to become one of His disciples if you want to hear from Him.
We wouldn't see anything, there would be no world, no universe. Without a creator, there would be nothing.
The answer really boils down to whether we have faith or not. I have answered in other threads that I support creation and then micro-evolution; that is evolution within species.
No, that would be KIP above. So it seems AV was right, you haven't been following the thread.
This post is so full of Arab phone, it's not funny.But that's not what this is about -- it's about AV thinking that evil atheist psychiatrists are snatching up the true believers who are hearing the voice of God and sedating them.
This post is so full of Arab phone, it's not funny.
For the record though, I want to make it plain that I expressly pointed out that no one was 'sedated' -- they were "rescued" before a diagnosis was made.
The person in question was placed in ward for a week's worth of testing.
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