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The Lord created science. Science is a useful tool. But that's all it is.If you believe evolution is false, what then do you think or believe was the process of creation? Fair enough if you disagree with darwinian evolution, but think some other sort of theistic evolution process was involved, but if you don't agree with any kind of evolutionary theory how then did birds, animals, fish, humans, come into existence. I am asking about how God created these? Can that be found out by science?
Coming from a believer who also believes evolution is fact, I disagree. If one didn't believe in God the idea of a supreme creator would be crazy ridiculous and would require more faith, I'd say, than a theist believing in evolution.I think it's been proven, and I believe it, that you have to have more faith to be an evolutionist than to believe a Supreme Being created it all.
I think it's been proven, and I believe it, that you have to have more faith to be an evolutionist than to believe a Supreme Being created it all. If one really, truly studies the "facts" of evolution, not just reading the promoters of it, but all the scientific data shown to be absent, you'll realize this. Faith is key, but what we put our faith in is even more key!
God spoke things into creation.... and when He used a different method, like taking a rib from the male adam to make the female adam, He told us. The concept that God creates by speaking is supported also by the verse that God cannot lie. Indeed, if what He says occurs, then it's all truly real and not false.
What is missing in our biology of things is the step process. Too many "things" have to go together at the same time for life, thus supporting the all at once spoken into existence concept.
It is not difficult for me to have faith to wrap my mind around the idea of a Supreme Being creating... but now to take my pea brain and ask me to figure out the how of the very Existence of that Supreme Being..whoa!
But you are speaking as if the Lord sets a group of scientific principles into effect, and then never changes them. I am suggesting he creates things piecemeal. Therefore, evolution can explain some of the changes that have taken place, but not all.That doesn't really answer my question. Science or rather the sciences are human attempts to understand creation in various aspects, physical laws, its chemistry etc. So if something exists that can be explored in some respects. Things (planets, animals, humans etc) exist, So if all sorts of evolution are false, some other mode of creation must have being involved. I am asking if anyone has a theory of what that might be?
But you are speaking as if the Lord sets a group of scientific principles into effect, and then never changes them. I am suggesting he creates things piecemeal. Therefore, evolution can explain some of the changes that have taken place, but not all.
That's just it the "evidence" upon which evolution is based does not exist. Have you honestly studied the "links" that the godless scientists have made and connected, and do you receive the updates when further research (due to increasingly more accurate test mechanisms) proves another part of the hypothesis wrong? I doubt it.... they don't widely publish it. And do the scientists that used to believe and promote evolution, who intent upon disproving creationism, find God and renounce evolution...do their testimonies have no weight and validity?
You cannot believe in evolution AND in the validity of the Bible as God's Word i.e. Creation as God says it was. Either God created or somehow from nothing stuff created itself. The timepiece in the forest has yet to make itself, as scientists suspect. Darwin himself said that if at any time something was found that could not create and exist on it's own until something else added on, then his whole idea would be false. Modern science has found some things like that.
I'm not saying you aren't going to heaven over this, but if I tried to go that way I would wonder upon what I could base my salvation.
I am no expert in science, but wasn't there a "missing link"?Maybe we are not understanding each other, and maybe thats because I haven't made myself clear enough.
What I mean is if one could have been there as an observer, what would one have seen, when the first fish was coming into existence? There are fish so something took place - and if its not evolutionary what way might it be described?
What did you mean when you said God created science?
What do you mean when you say 'he creates things peacemeal'?.
What changes can evolution not explain?
Yes, the Lord will physically move a mountain, if need be. That was his point. He can also move figurative mountains.Do you take 'moving mountains' literally?
He was just trying to make a point - he can, and will, do whatever it takes to keep you safe. If you were starving to death and there was a McDonald's on the other side of the mountain, he might move the mountain so you could eat.Why would the Lord need to physically move a mountain?
He would move the mountain if it needed to be moved. I'm sure he's done far greater things.I think thats carrying it a bit far (no pun intended), I might change my mind about it, or I might not, but I am not a biblical literalist. Could God not find other ways to feed me (he sent ravens to feed Elijah), but you will probably now say "Would I not like a God who would move a mountain for me, if I was starving?"
I think it means He would do the equivalent of moving a mountain, ie. if the food was on the other side of the mountain, he won't literally move that, but he would nevertheless get the food to me somehow, it would be as if he had moved the mountain. What do you think?
He is showing us all the way to heaven.Well assuming he wanted me to live?
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