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If creationism is true, then why is it useless?

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Why do you make such ludicrous statements that are demonstrably false?
By all means demonstrate that they are false. If you could that would be wonderful because you would be correcting my mistakes and improving my work. Even my son only has a 3.844 GPA. I do not claim perfection for me. I claim perfection for God and the written Word of God the Bible. What was your GPA and how perfect are you?
 
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That's not how it works.
That is how it works. Either prove the Bible is true or prove the Bible is in error. One or the other. There are wedding and there are funerals. That is all you get. God does not give you any more then that. On the day of judgement people are going to show up with glass alibis that are going to shatter before the Throne. I am not accountable for what you do and the choices that you make. "wisdom is vindicated by her actions."

Matthew 11:18 "'We played the pipe for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.'

Romans 14 "11 It is written: “As surely as I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow before Me; every tongue will confess to God.” 12 So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God."
 
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By all means demonstrate that they are false.
This is now how the burden of proof works. The person making the positive claim is the one who must prove it, because the only way to prove a negative is to use a contradicting positive (thus... proving a competing claim.).

What was your GPA and how perfect are you?
This is such a relevant addition to the conversation.
 
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This is such a relevant addition to the conversation.
Of course it is. YOU are claiming I am not perfect and that my posts are in error and yet you can not show any error. You need to substantiate your claims
 
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That is how it works. Either prove the Bible is true or prove the Bible is in error. One or the other.

But I'm not the one claiming it's historically accurate. You are. Therefore it's your job to corroborate that with evidence.

Human beings are natural storytellers. We make up stuff all the time. Just look at the NY best seller's list.

Given the obvious mythological elements of Noah's Flood story, it's clearly not a literal event as written in the Bible. We don't have evidence of a world wide flood wiping out all life on Earth, we don't have evidence that all lifeforms were a result of tiny founder populations post-Flood, and so on. So we know it's not a literal historical event as written.

Now if you want to claim that the event still occurred in some other context and that there was a historical man named Noah who built an Ark with 2 of every animal to ride out a flood of some kind, then by all means present some evidence to support it.

But don't fall back on the wishy-washy position of claiming I need to disprove such a claim. It's not my claim to disprove.
 
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Of course it is. YOU are claiming I am not perfect and that my posts are in error and yet you can not show any error. You need to substantiate your claims
I wasn't the person you asked their GPA to.

Still, you're the one who needs to prove their claim.
 
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Of course there was a flood as described in the Bible. No one has any reason to question that.
Where is the geological and archaeological evidence?

We can tell a giant meteor hit the Earth to cause the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 65,000,000 years ago, but you don't think we can detect a flood via geology that covered the whole world within the eras of human history?
 
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I actually had Shem in mind.

No Noah = no Shem = no Jews.

Thus the Jews are evidence that Noah existed.
In about the same way as the British are proof that King Arthur existed.
 
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In about the same way as the British are proof that King Arthur existed.
The British would be evidence of Japheth, who was also one of Noah's sons.

No Noah = no Japheth = no British.
 
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I actually had Shem in mind.
Yes Aaron was descended from Noah through Shem. The DNA they are working on right now goes back to Aaron the brother of Moses. Because this is the Levi branch of the family and they are more strict about keeping their DNA pure from all contamination. The DNA evidence confirms that the genealogies in the Bible are accurate and true. The Priest line is held to a higher standard.

There are not that many generations between Adam, Noah and Abraham. Adam would have still been alive when Noah's father was born.
 
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The British would be evidence of Japheth, who was also one of Noah's sons.
The British was a very small family, but this was the clan that the Romans protected and supported. When the Roman garrisons were gone the Anglos, Saxtons & Normans were quick to move in.
 
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We can tell a giant meteor hit the Earth to cause the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 65,000,000 years ago,
The Nano Diamond Meteor pertains more to the beginning of the era we are in around 12,900 years ago. I am not saying this is the cause of anything but a marker. I am sure that your 65 million year meteor is very important also as the marker of a new age or era. I believe that Neil Degrasse Apophis is going to be very significant also.

"Nanodiamond" Find Supports Comet Extinction Theory

 
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There are not that many generations between Adam, Noah and Abraham. Adam would have still been alive when Noah's father was born.
I like the fact that Shem lived right up to the time of Jacob; providing eye-witness testimony of the Flood, and being able to set the record straight should some other country try to plagiarize the story.
 
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lol
lol... word salad, therefore - Noah
 
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I like the fact that Shem lived right up to the time of Jacob; providing eye-witness testimony of the Flood, and being able to set the record straight should some other country try to plagiarize the story.
 
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