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Unfortunately, most people who are baptized do not commit their life to Christ. They assume because of the baptism that they can sin for the rest of life and then ask for forgiveness seconds before they die. Forgiveness requires works in the church.
American Baptist Church?A Baptist who rejects sola fide?
Unfortunately, most people who are baptized do not commit their life to Christ. They assume because of the baptism that they can sin for the rest of life and then ask for forgiveness seconds before they die. Forgiveness requires works in the church.
A Baptist who rejects sola fide?
This is an immensely problematic claim to make. Not only does it presume to know the experience and condition of over a billion and a half Christians alive right now, it also speaks of salvation as entirely based on our works, and says nothing about God's grace--about the Gospel. If forgiveness depended on our works, then there is no Good News.
-CryptoLutheran
Who says that baptism saves? I’m not aware of any church that teaches this.If baptism saves I don't understand how baptizing babies could be efficacious. It seems to say that the baby is saved because of the faith and actions of their parents, and not their own faith and love for God. How does that make sense?
According to all of the apostolic churches both east and west salvation is a synergetic matter resulting from our cooperation with God.Look up covenantal theology.
The notion that salvation is an individual matter didn't exist prior to the 18th century, and is very much tied to western individualism.
It's only problematic if you want it to be. I do not claim to know any single individual or their personal situation as you stated. That's a very bold assumption for a stranger on the internet after only one encounter.
Faith in Christ and the infinite atonement cleanses our sins, but repentance means forsaking sin.
Faith, without works, is dead. James 2:14-26
James 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,Faith, without works, is dead. James 2:14-26
Elaborate on what you believe that to mean.
-CryptoLutheran
James 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Fun fact: The eastern churches do baptism, Chrismation (confirmation), and the Eucharist (holy communion) all at once as infantsIn the great example of salvation, the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt,
going through the Red Sea is likened to be baptized.
In this act of "baptism", all the parents led or carried their children through the
Red Sea.
Christian groups who have child baptism, also have a second charism of
Confirmation, in which a former child who has had education in the doctrines of the Church,
and agreed to live according to them, is received into God's People AS AN ADULT.
This would correspond to the practice of "believer's baptism", in many of the low
church theologies.
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