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IE 6 or 7? also Java ?

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I have been part of taking surveys and it requires IE 6 and Java. I had previously installed a bad version of Java. Should I try installing Java again? Also what version is better IE 6 or 7?
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I strongly recommend you do not use IE at all. Firefox and Opera are faster, better and more secure browsers.
Among all, I prefer Konqueror as a web browser but it' snot available for Windows yet.
 
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I strongly recommend you do not use IE at all. Firefox and Opera are faster, better and more secure browsers.
Among all, I prefer Konqueror as a web browser but it' snot available for Windows yet.

I like Safari...but then again I'm a mac guy...

As far as Java is concerned, go to your Java control panel..

example:
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_07\bin\javacpl

that should be the right path...check the setting and make sure everything is alright.
 
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Browser preferences are personal preferences. IE7 has some neat features not available on 6 and overall I would recommend it.

As for which browser is the best, FF, Opera, IE, etc. The answer is there is no best. Its only which one you like the most....
 
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Browser preferences are personal preferences. IE7 has some neat features not available on 6 and overall I would recommend it.

As for which browser is the best, FF, Opera, IE, etc. The answer is there is no best. Its only which one you like the most....

I do not agree at all.

Technically, Opera and FF have been proven to be the best browsers for Windows as for speed, security and many other things. Konqueror is also a very good one on Linux and Safari on MacOS (pretty logical since Safari uses the Konqueror engine, KHTML).

Ideologically, IE and Opera are not acceptable to me. I wouldn't accept to eat a sandwich if I didn't have the right to look inside and add the sauce I want...
 
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Browser preferences are personal preferences. IE7 has some neat features not available on 6 and overall I would recommend it.

As for which browser is the best, FF, Opera, IE, etc. The answer is there is no best. Its only which one you like the most....

There might not be a best....but I've never gotten spyware or viruses from anything other than IE. I don't even need to use a firewall when I use Safari or FireFox. IE just seems to let things walk right in to your computer.
 
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IE gets a bad wrap because it is so popular. For every site I run IE makes up about 90-95% of all traffic. It's very popularity is what makes it such an attractive target for hackers.

As for its superiority, Opera and Firefox are faster for some browsing and slower for others. Both browsers originally gained such fame due to their simplicity. However, as more features are added with each version this advantage has slowly but surely gone away. In fact, just looking at my own resource usage on this computer at this moment, with both browsers veiwing the exact same 5 pages in different tabs, IE is using 72b of ram while firefox is holding 91.

So for you who does not agree, that's fine, as my original point indicated the best browser is the one that works the best for you. In your case it would appear to be FF or Opera....
 
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IE gets a bad wrap because it is so popular. For every site I run IE makes up about 90-95% of all traffic. It's very popularity is what makes it such an attractive target for hackers.

IE is not more popular than socialism is in North Korea. People get it by default with Windows, they don't have the choice. This has always been the way Microsoft has done it. No more comment to be done.


In fact, just looking at my own resource usage on this computer at this moment, with both browsers veiwing the exact same 5 pages in different tabs, IE is using 72b of ram while firefox is holding 91.

No graphical program uses 72b of RAM. Even console ones tend to use at least a few kb.
 
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IE7 seems like it will require you to have WGA installed on your computer, this program wastes your resources by checking if you have a genuine version of windows everytime you restart.

Torpark, looks a heck of a lot more secure then both IE and the base version of firefox.

Also Java is platform independant, in otherwords it shouldn't matter what browser or Operating System you use. I'd recommend Firefox because simply working with Java and Javascript it tends to emulate applets a lot better/faster and doesn't ask you to debug someone elses code (of course that is an option that can be turned off in IE but still it's annoying).

If anyone is wondering how to speed up the execution (loading of) Internet Explorer, set your home page to "about:blank" without the quotations, I've found that it opens quicker then explorer, no joke.

Personally I have developed my own browser in VB using one of the dlls that Internet Explorer uses, without all the 'garbage' ontop IE can run very fast on a Windows machine because it is in-built but the latest versions of IE to me aren't that spectacular when compared to firefox... Also firefox can emulate running IE with an extension called IE Tab however I am yet to see something similar for IE to emulate other browsers, trust me it is a great tool when you are developing webpages to be able to see what they look like in different browser environments.

*NB by emulate I mean in the sense of running a similar process and achieving the same effect of, not by the IT definition.

Just to add, if I want to know something about Firefox, there is no searching for it in the GUI, I can just simply type "about:plugins", "about:config", "about:mozilla" or just simply "about:" into the url field.
 
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Interesting... I didn't know about Torpak before. I wonder if this is legal in most countries... The creator claims security and privacy, but going through a distant proxy and changing IP all the time is a method often used by pirates in order to not be tracked.

Whose are the IP addresses that Torpak provides? How are the servers behind these IPs made secure?

I don't think Christians are typically the kind of people who are invited to hide when they act, in order to not be see, because we are asked to act in light. Makes me wonder...
 
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I've looked at it again. This seems very bad to me.

This guy claims this is for privacy and keeps you anonymous on the Internet... but you go through his proxy that list all the websites you visit, all your passwords, and track all your data.

I wouldn't trust that, all the more that he says it sends encrypted data to websites systematically, which is only possible if the website can accept these. All in all, I say don't try that...
 
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Yeah, I had only read the news artical, thanks for following up on it, I was wondering why it was only realsed for windows as well.

There are some websites such as google, I'd rather not waste my bandwidth on letting them know my searching habbits. However there are other ways to get around that. God can see all of our actions and probably can tell anyone anything about ourselves, I trust God's judgement, it's other people's judgement I don't trust. ;)
 
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IE7 is still in public beta at the moment; there are things that need working out still.

Plus, if you are using any sites that do use transparencies in their coding, IE7 doesn't support transparencies (or at least it didn't the last time I used it).

At the moment, I'm using Internet Explorer 6 - and despite what everyone says about it, it goes alright for me. I'm not bothered; it does what I need it to do. Being someone involved heavily with computers, yes, I know it's buggy, but it's never given me gyp yet.

As for Java, yeah, a good idea to install that.

As for Windows Genuine Advantage: IE7 will most likely ask you to validate it the first time to prove that you've got a kosher version of Windows.

As for Microsoft: they do some odd things. I ordered a DVD of Windows Vista RC1 off them, and the sale was processed in Singapore (this is despite the fact there is a Microsoft Australia within the same state as I am!)... and I thought, "Hmmm...." - the icing on the cake was Microsoft informing me it would be exported from the United States!

Because it's coming international post, I should get it fairly soon. It's very odd, but sometimes in Australia international post is faster than ordinary post - one shining example was a letter from the United Kingdom that was stamped at a British post office 4 days before I received it, followed swiftly by a letter from Sydney (same state as me) which was stamped 2 weeks before I received it!
 
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I have IE7 and think that overall it is a pretty neat setup. It has some cool built in features, and other things too. It now has tabs so that whenever you press Ctrl+T a new tab comes up and you can type in an Internet adress. Its kind of like having a bunch of Internets inside or 1. (I think they copied it from Firefox) Anyway IE7 also doesn't have File, Tools, and all that stuff at the top, all of that (including file) I think is kind of overrated. But it definently has its pros. Why don't you just try it yourself??? The link is http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx

Just giving away some tips....:thumbsup:
 
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I have IE7 and think that overall it is a pretty neat setup. It has some cool built in features, and other things too. It now has tabs so that whenever you press Ctrl+T a new tab comes up and you can type in an Internet adress. Its kind of like having a bunch of Internets inside or 1
YAY they're only, what 4-5 years behind Mozilla with this functionality, can't wait till they work out html pipelining.
 
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Then again, since unlike Netscape and FireFox, Microsoft does have to contend with producing operating systems and providing support for older ones, they sort of don't have the time to devote to newer stuff like FireFox has.
 
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