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I am currently reading through the first three centuries of church fathers and completed the majority. I will have the rest read before the end of the year, God willing.

And there seems to be a sin that is unanimously condemned by the early Christian writers - idolatry. And they define idolatry exactly how the second commandment describes it: you shall have no graven image, you shall not bow to them. So the making of something and venerating that created object.

Is this not a problem for certain churches who claim to be following apostolic teaching?
 

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I am currently reading through the first three centuries of church fathers and completed the majority. I will have the rest read before the end of the year, God willing.

And there seems to be a sin that is unanimously condemned by the early Christian writers - idolatry. And they define idolatry exactly how the second commandment describes it: you shall have no graven image, you shall not bow to them. So the making of something and venerating that created object.

Is this not a problem for certain churches who claim to be following apostolic teaching?
Keep reading and researching:

 
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The Ark wasn't a personification though. Nor was it personified.
Well? I don’t want to go off topic, but I appreciate your comments.

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The Ark wasn't a personification though. Nor was it personified.

There were literally "graven images" of cherubim upon the Ark which covered the kapporet where the Divine Glory--the Shekinah--dwelt.

So clearly depictions like this were not violations of the 1st Commandment's prescription against worshiping other gods and idolatry.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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