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ContraMundum said:
There you go whining that Hezbollah doesn't have untouchable airplanes. We can arm Hezbollah and make it a "fair" fight. Of course, your objection is totally disingenuous.
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ContraMundum said:Israel drops leaflets before attacking- Hezbollah do not.
Yes, lets Ps 83ContraMundum said:Ever read Ps 83?
That looks like devine intervention to me. It was always God's power that delivered Israel. The prayer is for God to act.1: Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. 2: For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. 3: They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. 4: They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. 5: For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: 6: The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; 7: Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8: Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah. 9: Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: 10: Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. 11: Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: 12: Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. 13: O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. 14: As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; 15: So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. 16: Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. 17: Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: 18: That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
With Rockefeller, and Rothschild fortunes and The United States behind it I hardly see David and Goliath. That Satan has a time to set up his Kingdom is the answer. It would appear Satan offers this power Matt 4 8: Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9: And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Matt 23 37: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38: Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39: For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. How can Jerusalem see God when they do not call his name?You can have all the military hardware in the world, but if God wants you to lose, you will. Israel surely knows that.
By the way- I believe it is by God's Spirit that Israel has not been beaten- especially considering the odds against them during the Arab-Israeli wars, let alone the evil that confronts them now.
Like I said- God has allowed Israel to exist as a nation-state, for His purpose, and according to His plan. There is simply no other explanation to accept for anyone who believes in a sovereign God.
Poke said:There you go whining that Hezbollah doesn't have untouchable airplanes. We can arm Hezbollah and make it a "fair" fight. Of course, your objection is totally disingenuous.
The Lord is using Hezbollah to turn Jacob/Israel away from Godlessness and into the arms of our Lord and King Jesus the Christ.F16 is the use of might. It is the Christian support of a Godless Israel that is the issue. It is as absurd , as you say, as the Christian support of Hezbollah. There is no difference.
There will be more than Hezbollah. All nations will go for Jacobs throat. It will not be pretty. They are blinded by the Synagogue of Satan.Most will be destroyed.LittleLambofJesus said:The Lord is using Hezbollah to turn Jacob/Israel away from Godlessness and into the arms of our Lord and King Jesus the Christ.
1 Kings 11:14 Now Y@hovah raised up an adversary against Solomon, Hadad the Edomite; he [was] a descendant of the king in Edom.
"The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob/Israel.
Zech 13 1: In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness. 2: And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land. 3: And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth. 4: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive: 5: But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth. 6: And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. 7: Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. 8: And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 9: And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
gwynedd1 said:Yes I quite agree. I am not certain our role, if it can be delayed. Our role to to bear witness and call for peace. Perhaps it can be delayed, if not I will bear winess to the truth. What will occur in the conflict will not be of God in anyway. Let the World exact its wrath on you but I am trying to alert Christians that they should not invite God's wrath.All will come under judgement. I respond to as I do to you because I once thought Islam was the worst of it as you have stated. In many ways, I am not suprised but I have since discovered that Satan works better from internal corruption and deceit. Satan, the great imitator of God would certainly want to rule from Zion and claim Israel as its people. Jews have been deceived by their blind guides.
Your heart is there Gordon. It is good to warn of Islam but for edification and to call for peace. There is much more to Satan's kingdom than most understand and it is over the entire earth as we speak. God Bless
MezzaMorta said:Israel has no regard for Lebanese civilians. They do not consider them human. Look what they have done to the Palestinian people for the last 40 years or so. They have subjugated them, oppressed, brutalized and denied them their human rights.
Expecting Israel to care about innocent civilians is expecting morality from a terrorist nation.
Israel was born on terrorism and ethnic cleansing against the Arab peoples of the land and that is how they will continue to exist.
I am astounded! Would you care to research or remember what has happened to the Jews since their beginning? The holocaust was not the only horrible thing to happen to the Jews.
They have established their own country, and are defending themselves.
hen just about all the Arab countries have claimed the only solution is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, and rejoice with every Israelite is killed - and Israel has never said any such thing
MezzaMorta said:The holocaust was a horrible thing, no one is to say it is not. How ever 6 million Jews dieing in the holocaust does not give the Jewish people the right to deny another people their human rights, break international laws and establish a nation out of terrorism and ethnic cleansing.
One would think that the Jewish people having suffered though the holocaust would have unequaled respect for Human rights and the right to self determination. But as it stands Israel oppresses over 6 million Palestinians, denies them their basic human rights and has done so since 1967.
You can not come in, robe, rape and commit genocide then say when those you are opressesing fight back that you are just defending yourself.
"[Palestinian Arab] villages inside the Jewish state that resist 'should be destroyed .... and their inhabitants expelled beyond the borders of the Jewish state.' Meanwhile, 'Palestinian residents of the urban quarters which dominate access to or egress from towns should be expelled beyond the borders of the Jewish state in the event of their resistance.' " -David Ben-Gurion
He was the first prime minister of Israel and self admitted terrorist.
Israel has no right to defend itself as it has no right to exist.
Morgaine1205 said:I'd like to see your proof of rob, rape and genocide by the Israeli's. The word genocide means "The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group." Where did you get that Israel is trying to commit genocide, and against what nation, race, political or ethnic group?
"Israel has no right to defend itself as it has no right to exist"?? Are you serious? What gives you the right to make such a claim?
MezzaMorta said:Israel has no regard for Lebanese civilians. They do not consider them human. Look what they have done to the Palestinian people for the last 40 years or so. They have subjugated them, oppressed, brutalized and denied them their human rights.
Expecting Israel to care about innocent civilians is expecting morality from a terrorist nation.
Israel was born on terrorism and ethnic cleansing against the Arab peoples of the land and that is how they will continue to exist.
MezzaMorta said:Ethnic cleansing is genocide. Israel engaged in a systematic and prolonged campaign to drive the Arabs from land they wished to colonize and settled.
They continue to engage in such practices today in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Destroying Palestinian homes to build Jewish colonies.
ContraMundum said:Then how do you explain the large number of Arab Israelis happily living in Israel and supportive of their government? emigrated into Israel from the Gaza Strip
and West Bank, receiving citizenship under family-unification provisions."
If Israel is the pit of all things evil, how do you explain that?
Then how do you explain incidents of late where Jewish settlers have had their homes bulldozed to give to Arabs?
MezzaMorta said:Israel has no regard for Lebanese civilians. They do not consider them human. Look what they have done to the Palestinian people for the last 40 years or so. They have subjugated them, oppressed, brutalized and denied them their human rights.
Expecting Israel to care about innocent civilians is expecting morality from a terrorist nation.
Israel was born on terrorism and ethnic cleansing against the Arab peoples of the land and that is how they will continue to exist.
If he did it in Israel he could be arrested...GordonSlocum said:Mezza, Question? Given the opertunity would you witness to a Jew whom you feel posses this hate you speak of and offer him the Gospel of Christ leading to Salvation and eternal life?
Jipsah said:If he did it in Israel he could be arrested...
Poke said:Most of them are there because they were there before the state of Israel (about a quarter of them were on land later annexed by Israel). I doubt they are supportive of the Israeli government. Many other Arabs have been displaced by Israel.
At least they don't have to worry about Israel dropping bombs on them in Israel as they had to worry about in Gaza.
Israel has banned Arabs from family unification.
Explain what? Displacing Arabs? Treating Arabs as 2nd-class citizens? Banning family reunification? Trying to remove 500,000 Arabs with a land swap? I explain it by Israel being the pit of all things evil.
Are you talking about Israel moving out 85 hundred settlers from the Gaza strip to open it up to increased military oppression? Israel gave those jews new homes, unlike the innocent Arabs who have had their homes destroyed by the pit of all things evil. And, if Israel weren't evil, it wouldn't have bulldozed those homes, but let Palestinians have them after the pullout (after all, the US paid for them and will pay for their replacements).
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