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LOL! OK... I'm not throwing away my notes.
Actually, his style of presentation, making extensive use of Powerpoint slides, makes it easy to follow his outline, and analyze the arguments.
Also, Derek makes a good point regarding how the guy plays an audience. Whether conscious or unconscious, I can't say, but he plays the crowd like a fiddle. He is as manipulative as they come.
One of the biggest manipulations he uses is the repeat mode. Get the people to repeat, over and over, and voila! their minds are putty in your hands!
I thank God the teachers I listen to don't use that technique - they'd lose me in an instant! Been there, done that and will never again relinquish my thinking processes to that kind of manipulation!
When you people here trash somebody, you don't go half way. Now, he's a master manipulator and out to control our minds.
Most of the people he is teaching are new to messianic and two house. Repetition is a standard teaching method for any subject. It has nothing to do with manipulation, but trying to instill his main points in the memory.
That's right! That's what I said. Can't just give his teaching, and expect it to hold up without this particular method, cos it probably wouldn't. Gotta get 'em primed for it. Yep.
Then you better go through every teaching tape and book you have and throw them out, because they will have the same things in them. Including your bible.
I'm listening right now, about30 minutes into it and it sure sounds 2-House to me! It's taken a generous amount of the Hebrew Scriptures away from the Jews! Not a good thing in my opinion.
I don't have the patience to sit down and listen for an hour and a half...but from what I've seen he is definitely a two houser.
We use the term Jew/Jewish. You object. But your objection means nothing since we are one people, and one nation.
It was not Babylon who 'lumped' us together. We are called children of Israel. One. We are called the children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Again one. Jewish is a synonym for children of Israel which refers to all 12 tribes.
The silliness of this is you, and Two House, and British Israelism, and Christian Identity, all try to tell the Jewish people who we are. We know who we are and don't need anyone to tell us.
Oh, that's never been in question. Staley is a leader among Two Housers!
The claim Pat is making is that Two House theology is not inherently anti-Semitic. His intention in posting Staley's video was to put an authentic Two Houser in front of us. He believes we just don't understand how wonderful Two House teaching is, and wants to correct our ignorance. It doesn't occur to him that we are well aware of what constitutes Two House thinking, and reject it for a variety of good reasons.
The video needs to be removed just as it was the first time around. No, I wasn't the one who requested it, nor will I this time, but Pat, you should remove it. It is not MJ teaching and MJ doesn't agree with it nor uphold its teachings.
Oh, that's never been in question. Staley is a leader among Two Housers!
The claim Pat is making is that Two House theology is not inherently anti-Semitic. His intention in posting Staley's video was to put an authentic Two Houser in front of us. He believes we just don't understand how wonderful Two House teaching is, and wants to correct our ignorance. It doesn't occur to him that we are well aware of what constitutes Two House thinking, and reject it for a variety of good reasons.
No, my purpose was to expose the unsupported slander of two house by some of those on here. Ignorance cannot be corrected by outside. I can show your errors, but you have to choose to overcome it.
I wouldn't say "unsupported." There have been many who have offered support in the fact that he's spouting anti-semitism. But when you come back with some of the silly rebuttals that you have tried to use, I'm sorry it's like trying to tell a six-year-old to stop lisping cos their two front teeth are missing - there just isn't an argument for something so ridiculous.
That is how I feel. It is the same way when the name is mentioned. Walls come up and IQ goes out the window.
It comes down to "how it feels" which is neither rational nor scriptural.
That is how I feel. It is the same way when the name is mentioned. Walls come up and IQ goes out the window. It comes down to "how it feels" which is neither rational nor scriptural.
Then you should stop putting up walls and rejecting fuller knowledge.
I agree. Two Housers are all about emotion.
Fer sher!
Very few MJs are moved by their "feelings," been there, done that, no more!
Really?? Every time I try to debate anyone on here, it usually comes down to how they feel or what they think about things, not what scripture says or even history. Qnts is a prime example. None of her arguments on the Yeshua and Hanukkah thread have anything to do with history or reality, just how she thinks it affects Jews.
In this thread, people are constantly taking what Staley says (and what I say for that matter) out of context or adding in things that he doesn't say, assuming that he 'meant it' or 'implied it'. I don't care who believes in two house. As I have defined it, it is a fact of history and scripture, not an opinion. It is not British Israelism, and it is not replacement theology.
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