Idea!

[cygnusx1]

I'm so ignoring this guy that I almost ignored this thread.

Soli Deo Gloria

Jon

LOL!!!

 

[Knight]

I fail to see the benefit of such an endeavor.

Hope you had fun.....

 

[BBAS 64]

Hey all! I have a great idea!

Instead of us all getting our feathers ruffled over this reoccuring troll (yes, I got sucked into it again.... ) .........

Let's all just agree with whatever he says(in whatever name he keeps changing into) so he won't have any reason to argue.

It'll be much simpler than trying to talk sense into someone who so obviously hates our doctrine(and dare I say us also) so much.

Good Day, Imblessed

I feel that is in my best intereset to talk to people like that. I will contuine to Pray for PE or what ever he is this very day. I do not know that he hates us, but he surly has a misunderstanding for some reason, and seems unreasonable at times. I was there once to some degree or another.


So, PE if you read this..ask away, but be fair to the people who interact with you.

Peace to u,

Bill

 

[BBAS 64]

Still Fat!


Still Bald!


Still Funky!

What IF In Reality I actually agree with the teachings of John Calvin?

What IF I am, in fact a Teacher in My home Church, Teaching a NEW Converts Class, and EVERYTHING THAT I have done is a CLASS experiment to reveal to my students the emotional dangers of Internet Christian forums?

I cut and pasted ALL of your responses to my comments, and ALL of my own comments, into my works word processor program, then I printed them to show to my class!

The most dangerous activity for a new Christian convert is taking part in Christian discussions, on internet Christian forums, when you have absolutely NO Foundation of Biblical knowledge, I proved that very adequately!

You all got to a point where some of you ALMOST began to despise me.

GOTCHA!

Hey, everyone, I did go a little overboard, SORRY bout dat, cry: Fergive me?) BUT sometimes to get the full effect, you have to do what you have to do, anyways, for the most part, I agree with John Calvins teachings, I am still Pentecostal though.

I am a Christian man BTW.....

Good Day, Fatty

You are puttin me on.. , so what were the input from the students and were their final thoughts on this whole thing??

Peace to u,

Bill

 

[Fatty]

Good Day, Fatty

You are puttin me on.. , so what were the input from the students and were their final thoughts on this whole thing??

Peace to u,

Bill

They ALL got to see first hand, from BOTH sides of the spectrum, how NOT to have Christian fellowship online....

Some were amazed with the negative responses to some of their questions (which BTW were actually sincere).

I told them that if Christiaqns agree on the basic fundamentals of Doctrinal truth which are important we can all be one in Christ.

NO denomination,religious group, or individual is absolutely perfect, BUT sadly, there are some who feel they do have the monopoly on perfection, we must all function once and for al in a true Spirit of Compassionate Christ like love, regardless of any of our disagreements regarding any and all trivial doctrinal differences.

While I may not totally agree with all of the teachings of John Calvin this does not make me in the least any less a sincere Christian than any other person, nor does this make any of you any less a Christian than I am.

I believe we ought to consdier it a very great priviledge to share the Gospel message with the lost, in a sincere Spirit of Christ like compassionate love, and so I strive as often as I am able to do this, I have always, and will always believe that the love of God throguh Christ Jesus is a love that is forever available at anytime to anyone, and everyone, anywhere and everywhere, who will believe.

I do have to be honest, I still cannot fullu accept the doctrine of election, and rejection (sorry that is what it seems to be to me) I believe anyone has an equal opportunity to accept the gift of salvation, IF that gift is offered to them through the witness of a Christian, I d0o not believe God has ever absolutely set aside anyone for destruction since the work of the cross was made complete.

Their final thoughts?

Act right ALL the time, everywhere no matter what the circumstances.

 

[Fatty]

Good Day, Imblessed

I feel that is in my best intereset to talk to people like that. I will contuine to Pray for PE or what ever he is this very day. I do not know that he hates us, but he surly has a misunderstanding for some reason, and seems unreasonable at times. I was there once to some degree or another.


So, PE if you read this..ask away, but be fair to the people who interact with you.

Peace to u,

Bill

Actually I don't really have any questions!

I have two small books in my possesion that came from a Presbyterian church library near where I live one is the book of Church order, and the other is the confession of faith, my eyes ain't all that great and it's kinda hard to read some of the really small print, but I've been looking through them and for the most part, I can agree with a lot of it, but some of it I can't.

The nbooks are very old though, one (Church Order) is from 1925, and the other (Confession of Faith) is from 1861!

I also have some Bibles that are pretty old 1842, 1886, 1889, 1934.

I have a book titled Grandpas Bible Stories that was printed in 1885, among other old books from the mid 1800's up to the early 1950's.

One of the Bibles I have (1842) belonged to My Great Great Grandfather who was a Church of Christ moinister, he traveled all over Arkansas, Oklahoma, TExas, and Louisana preaching revival meetings, and establishing Churches.

My 'Denominational' heritage background includes Presbyterian, Missionary Baptist, Southern Baptist, Free Will Baptist, Methodist, Primitive Baptist, Assemblies of God, and Pentecostal, so I would say that I'd have to call myself interdenominational if anything

May God very richly bless you all!

 

[Fatty]

I fail to see the benefit of such an endeavor.

Hope you had fun.....

Actually there was great benefit in it for the people in my class.

They saw just how easy it can be to rile folks up and ALMOST push them over the edge.

They also saw (FROM MY OWN EXAMPLE more than any other) how NOT to act...

These folks also witnessed ME on my own face seeking Gods forgivenes for my own actions.....

 

[Fatty]

If this is for real, I love it.

What an experiment. Tell your students that scamming other Christians is evil and a grave sin, for which there may not be forgiveness .

In Christ,
Kenith

WHOAAAAA now hold on there big cajun fella I'll have you know them thar new converts AND ME MY OWNSELF have all prayed and confessed our faults in all this to God (1st John 1:9) and we are ALL very satisfied with his forgiveness...

You gotta admit though I did have you going didn't I?

LIke I said in another post, I don't plan on doing it again, here, and maybe not anywhere, it van too easily get out of hand, and cause too may heartaches and too much grief.....

 

[Cajun Huguenot]

Yes I can see how it can get out of hand, and I would never do it. Still, I can see how we can all learn from it.

If you ever do have any questions on predestination or paedobaptism, I wuld be more than happy to discuss them with you or your students.
In Christ,
Kenith

 

[reformedfan]

You gotta admit though I did have you going didn't I?

no, you were too over the top hateful, a characature of a Calvinist hating heathen, which didn't make any sense. Real Arminians are too all inclusive, 'Jesus luvs everyone' to be so spitefully rude to a buncha Calvinists & real life heathens don't know enough about Christ or the Bible or systematic theology to criticize a specific doctrine, they make sweeping genaralizations about Christians in general.

Too bad all your threads got deleted or i could post my questions to you from them here, wondering who you were spying for. I thought mebbe you were writing for the CF newspaper or spying for the heathens in GA.

Pretty stupid & pointless assignment if ya ask me. 'how not to interact on the internet'? Is that like 'reverse salt & light training'? Then the faulty conclusions you drew, no one was hateful to you as you were to them. You made your peace with God & all is cool, huh? What about people who's feelings you may of hurt (mine weren't( what about already busy mods that had ta wade thru your posts deleting stuff on a beeyouteefu;l day they coulda been running through the sprinkler instead of babysitting idiots on the internet?

All around, if you are a teacher, i sincerely hope my kids never encounter someone like you, with things of such dubious value to teach them. They are pretty good on their own at 'how to push people's buttons 101'.

 

[Fatty]

no, you were too over the top hateful, a characature of a Calvinist hating heathen, which didn't make any sense. Real Arminians are too all inclusive, 'Jesus luvs everyone' to be so spitefully rude to a buncha Calvinists & real life heathens don't know enough about Christ or the Bible or systematic theology to criticize a specific doctrine, they make sweeping genaralizations about Christians in general.

Too bad all your threads got deleted or i could post my questions to you from them here, wondering who you were spying for. I thought mebbe you were writing for the CF newspaper or spying for the heathens in GA.

Pretty stupid & pointless assignment if ya ask me. 'how not to interact on the internet'? Is that like 'reverse salt & light training'? Then the faulty conclusions you drew, no one was hateful to you as you were to them. You made your peace with God & all is cool, huh? What about people who's feelings you may of hurt (mine weren't( what about already busy mods that had ta wade thru your posts deleting stuff on a beeyouteefu;l day they coulda been running through the sprinkler instead of babysitting idiots on the internet?

All around, if you are a teacher, i sincerely hope my kids never encounter someone like you, with things of such dubious value to teach them. They are pretty good on their own at 'how to push people's buttons 101'.

Sorry you feel so badly about it all, maybe YOU ought to also sincerely consider the fact that YOU are NOT the final judge of whether what I did was pleasing to God or not, GOD is, so I am NOT in the least bit concerend about your assesment of my actions, I apologized, to everyone, YOU included, if you refuse to accept that apology, no sweat off my back.

As for your kids (seems odd to refer to your children as baby goats ) encountering a teacher like me, maybe you also ought to consider the very real fact that there are a lot WORSE out there!

Just remember, Reformed means CHANGED....

 

[Fatty]

Yes I can see how it can get out of hand, and I would never do it. Still, I can see how we can all learn from it.

If you ever do have any questions on predestination or paedobaptism, I wuld be more than happy to discuss them with you or your students.
In Christ,
Kenith

Now that paedobaptism word, THAT ONE'S Got me plum bumfuzzeled!

See I ain't Too educated as far as secular education goes ( quit pay9ing attention in the 4th Grade skipped most of school from 5th to 10th quit in 11th) anyway, is paedobaptism where you baptize the new converts in some farmers pond?

 

[CoffeeSwirls]

What IF I am, in fact a Teacher in My home Church, Teaching a NEW Converts Class, and EVERYTHING THAT I have done is a CLASS experiment to reveal to my students the emotional dangers of Internet Christian forums? I cut and pasted ALL of your responses to my comments, and ALL of my own comments, into my works word processor program, then I printed them to show to my class!

I still wonder if you have been hurt by a hyper Calvinist. Why else would you seek out Calvinists for this little experiment? With just a little lurking, you would be able to see that we are not vengeful people. We are as fallible as anyone, and can be frustrated when we are led along in the way you led us. What comments did the class have as they read the interaction between you and us? I'm as interested in how they responded to your remarks as how we did. You came across as quite rude and very condescending. A lesson in honest living could be taken from this experiment.

The most dangerous activity for a new Christian convert is taking part in Christian discussions, on internet Christian forums, when you have absolutely NO Foundation of Biblical knowledge, I proved that very adequately!

We don't mind people coming here with little foundation, but we do expect that they will at least consider the responses we give. Perhaps a greater danger is bringing your own foundation into a discussion or a time of Bible study and ignoring any contradiction to your thoughts, regardless the wealth of proof.

Hey, everyone, I did go a little overboard, SORRY bout dat, cry: Fergive me?) BUT sometimes to get the full effect, you have to do what you have to do, anyways, for the most part, I agree with John Calvins teachings, I am still Pentecostal though.

To not forgive a (hopefully) sincere apology would be unloving, so I do forgive you. That does not mean that I will be prone to believe you, should you revert to the ways you have carried yourself. The fruit of the spirit will determine a person's acceptance of your testimony, so this could lead to another lesson of living the life vs. talking the talk. I can see some lessons for you to teach in this. Despite that, you went about this in a very reckless and immature manner. I believe reformedfan will forgive you, but after the ride you took at our expense the least you could do is accept the fact that she, and several others, are offended at how you were just using us. We are people. Not resources for your impromptu case study.

For the record, most calvinsts will not be pentecostal, but a great many pentecostals are calvinists and I know several who adhere to sola scriptura, testing the tongues of man against scripture in berean fashion. Pentecostalism and Calvinism are not diametrically opposed to each other as many pentecostals presume.

 

[JJB]

Fatty,

In the interest of getting your message of asking for forgiveness out, perhaps you should start a thread so that all of us involved in your "experiment" may see it.

Squeaking in a wheel,
JJB

 

[Fatty]

We are people. Not resources for your impromptu case study.

Fact? Maybe, Maybe not, the truth is, we are all most often the unwilling victims of that terrible thing called reality.

Whether we like it, or not, we still live in a giant goldfish bowl where all of our good, and bad is visible to the world around us.

I have my many faults, and you, all of you, also have your own many faults.

Was it wrong for me to, as you say, use you all?

No, I do not believe it was wrong. Would the instructor of Jet Pilots use a Farm Tractor to teach his students the possible faults (problems) that might arise while flying a large jet?

Why would I then want to go to any other sources, other than Christians to reveal to new Coneverts the faults that MIGHT arise among Christians?

From the beginning of my own Christian walk I heard teachers say again and again that other Christians would fail other Christains, and I witnessed this happen time, and time again, BUT in the midst of it all the worst thing that happened was the loften total lack of true forgiveness on the part of both sides.

When these things happened, just as in my own experiment, anger began to boil, and some became very bitter, and made themselves to be the life long enemies of their counterparts in the foray, some even walked away from their own commitments to Christ blaming the Church, and not themselves, and their lack of desire to sincerely forgive, for their feelings of hurt and anger.

I have already apologized for my own part, and the part of my students for the things that were said that MAY have gone beyond the paramiters of good in the experiment, God says that IF we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness, he does not say if we BEG, all we are required of by God to do is to confess that we have done wrong, I did this, I will not allow myself to be forced to beg reformedfan, or anyone, to forgve me, or my students.

No offense intended, just facts that are facts, and will continue to remain facts....

 

[Fatty]

Fatty,

In the interest of getting your message of asking for forgiveness out, perhaps you should start a thread so that all of us involved in your "experiment" may see it.

Squeaking in a wheel,
JJB

I might consider doing just that, but it will be a while before this can be done, we have a new adventure we are about to embark on and before we can, we must spend some time getting deeper in the word and even deeper in prayer.

We are going to go out into the streets to have face to face encounters with the worst of society to witness to them about the love of Jesus Christ.

For that, we MUST be properly, and completley prepared, Physically, Emotionally, and Spiritually.

When I share about the things that happen, I want to include testimomnies from all the lives that Hopefully will be changed during this adventure, both ours, and those we have the opportuinty to witness to!

In Christ

Michael

 

[Tertiumquid]

Hi "Fatty"

Your posts or "experiment" were nothing more than slander and attack.

As I said previously, Reformed people have no one to fear and have no need for moderators to keep people from attacking or slandering us. It comes with the territory. I say, let trolls or whoever wants to "experiment" continue to do what they do. We are Reformed. We have the Scriptures. Frankly, i'm used to non-Reformed nonsense and silliness, so its hard to get me riled up. I've been insulted to my face by friends, family, and complete strangers about the doctrines of grace. No big deal.

On the other hand, if you either "experiment" or "attack" the blessed truths in Scripture we Reformed folks find so incredible and humbling, be prepared to get a good Greek bible, about 1000 commentaries, and be prepared to not have cogent responses, despite having those tools.

Clear enough? I'm not experimenting. I'm being quite serious.

Have a nice day

James Swan

 

[Fatty]

Hi "Fatty"

Your posts or "experiment" were nothing more than slander and attack.

As I said previously, Reformed people have no one to fear and have no need for moderators to keep people from attacking or slandering us. It comes with the territory. I say, let trolls or whoever wants to "experiment" continue to do what they do. We are Reformed. We have the Scriptures. Frankly, i'm used to non-Reformed nonsense and silliness, so its hard to get me riled up. I've been insulted to my face by friends, family, and complete strangers about the doctrines of grace. No big deal.

On the other hand, if you either "experiment" or "attack" the blessed truths in Scripture we Reformed folks find so incredible and humbling, be prepared to get a good Greek bible, about 1000 commentaries, and be prepared to not have cogent responses, despite having those tools.

Clear enough? I'm not experimenting. I'm being quite serious.

Have a nice day

James Swan

Thought I'd just LAUGH this one off. Actually it deserves an extra chuckle...... Here's another just for good measure James

 

[erin74]

I know that you have asked for forgiveness, but your comments don't show much sign of repentence, just defensiveness of your 'experiment'. I can only hope that I am wrong.

 

[Fatty]

I know that you have asked for forgiveness, but your comments don't show much sign of repentence, just defensiveness of your 'experiment'. I can only hope that I am wrong.

Your opinion.

After experiencing the unforgiveness of many other 'Christians" I no longer feel the need to beg for any humans forgiveness, and I refuse to do it.

God has already taken care of that quite well thank you, and I didn't have to beg him to forgive me, I won't beg you either.

If you are unwilling to accpet my apology, that is your priviledge.

Repentance? You say it like you expect some type of pennance from me, well I ceetainly do not believe in that, so that will certainly NOT be forth coming, have a greatly blessed life.....