Iconoclasm

[christrawker]

Hello, I was wondering if any of you know any scripture that supports Iconoclam. It is a project I am doing for my class. Thank-u

 

[ScottBot]

Hello, I was wondering if any of you know any scripture that supports Iconoclam. It is a project I am doing for my class. Thank-u

Scripture that supports the destruction of pictures?

 

[lmnop9876]

depends whether you mean mild or extreme iconoclasm.
mild iconoclasm forbids images of any of the three persons of the Holy Trinity, including God manifest in the flesh, Jesus Christ
extreme iconoclasm prohibits pictures of people of any kind, whether of Christ, the Virgin Mary, the saints, your family, or your next-door neighbour.

 

[constance]

There is certainly much scripture which supports the iconoclasm of "foreign gods". Is that what you are asking about, or are you asking about iconoclasm within Christianity?

The pro-iconoclasm arguement tends to be a combination of the first commandment and Exodus 32.

Constance

 

[PaladinValer]

All Iconoclasm was declared heretical thanks to the influence of the Holy Spirit in the Seventh (and Last) Ecumenical Council.

 

[ttreg]

Hello, I was wondering if any of you know any scripture that supports Iconoclam. It is a project I am doing for my class. Thank-u

um just wandering does ur teacher or school beleives in iconoclasm? or are u like trying to prove this to some one (sorta like what im trying to do)

 

[dunkel]

Iconoclasm was pretty much peculiar to the Greek Orthodox Church, at least in its most extreme. Ok, that's not entirely accurate, as the big split had not yet occured, but you know what I mean. It stemmed not so much from scripture as from long held Oriental though. Remember that Islam can be considered quite icnoclastic, as well, with their prohibitions against depicting Mohommad and Allah. Basically, the idea was one of those side effects of earlier cultural beliefs getting mixed up with Christianity. As far as this goes:

All Iconoclasm was declared heretical thanks to the influence of the Holy Spirit in the Seventh (and Last) Ecumenical Council.

That probably had more to do with Rome just being against Constantinople and less to do with any real scriptural issues.

It really was a shame, though. The Byzantines had some absolutely beautiful religious artwork and lost much of it during this time period. Plus the time and energy wasted on religious imagry could have been better put towards actually defending the Empire against their many enemies, not the least of which were the Muslims.

 

[lmnop9876]

Iconoclasm was pretty much peculiar to the Greek Orthodox Church, at least in its most extreme. Ok, that's not entirely accurate, as the big split had not yet occured, but you know what I mean. It stemmed not so much from scripture as from long held Oriental though. Remember that Islam can be considered quite icnoclastic, as well, with their prohibitions against depicting Mohommad and Allah. Basically, the idea was one of those side effects of earlier cultural beliefs getting mixed up with Christianity. As far as this goes:

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All Iconoclasm was declared heretical thanks to the influence of the Holy Spirit in the Seventh (and Last) Ecumenical Council.

That probably had more to do with Rome just being against Constantinople and less to do with any real scriptural issues.

It really was a shame, though. The Byzantines had some absolutely beautiful religious artwork and lost much of it during this time period. Plus the time and energy wasted on religious imagry could have been better put towards actually defending the Empire against their many enemies, not the least of which were the Muslims.

iirc, it was the western emperors who were trying to have iconoclasm instituted as the official teaching of the Church.

 

[christrawker]

Well, one group is trying to support it and one group is condemning it. Then the teacher will tell us about how it is wrong and stuff. I still want to win and was wondering if there are any verses that support iconoclasm though. I have the one where God says to make the bronze snake.

 

[constance]

Which side are you on?

 

[dunkel]

iirc, it was the western emperors who were trying to have iconoclasm instituted as the official teaching of the Church.

That may be true, but I don't know anything about it. Everything I have read about the big iconoclasm movement was from the Eastern Empire in the 800-900's or so.

 

[PaladinValer]

Iconoclasm was found everywhere, but it was more influencial in the East.

 

[dunkel]

Iconoclasm was found everywhere, but it was more influencial in the East.

Saying it was "more influencial in the East" is a bit of an understatement. Iconoclasm in the Eastern Empire radically effected the course of history, whereas any iconoclasm in the West was, at most, a footnote in a history book.