ICE raids Italian restaurant in San Diego; deploys flash bang grenades to disperse the gathered crowd

[ozso]

Exactly, this has nothing to do with the rule of law, it is nothing but thuggery.

Has it been thuggery for the past 50 years, or just now? I grew up in Los Angeles county so I saw raids taking place on the local news fairly frequently back in the 70s.

 

[Goonie]

Has it been thuggery for the past 50 years, or just now? I grew up in Los Angeles county so I saw raids taking place on the local news fairly frequently back in the 70s.

As described thuggery in any decade.

 

[essentialsaltes]

What makes you think there already isn't a universal database?

Because ICE wants access to IRS records, so it can go after tax-paying non-citizens.

 

[ozso]

As described thuggery in any decade.

Provided the description isn't sensationalism. I'd like to see bodycam footage of it, if it becomes available.

 

[ozso]

Because ICE wants access to IRS records, so it can go after tax-paying non-citizens.

That's already a thing. It's called Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) which allows the ICE to get taxpayer information from the IRS.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Local news coverage. (w some video)
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San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria also responded to Friday night's raid:
"Like many San Diegans, I was deeply upset by Friday night’s immigration enforcement operation at Buona Forchetta and Enoteca Buona Forchetta in South Park. Federal actions like these are billed as a public safety measure, but it had the complete opposite effect. What we saw undermines trust and creates fear in our community. I raised these concerns and my strong objections directly with Homeland Security Investigations leadership this morning. I will continue to advocate for the respect, dignity, rights, and security of everyone in our city.”
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[ozso]

Local news coverage. (w some video)
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San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria also responded to Friday night's raid:
"Like many San Diegans, I was deeply upset by Friday night’s immigration enforcement operation at Buona Forchetta and Enoteca Buona Forchetta in South Park. Federal actions like these are billed as a public safety measure, but it had the complete opposite effect. What we saw undermines trust and creates fear in our community. I raised these concerns and my strong objections directly with Homeland Security Investigations leadership this morning. I will continue to advocate for the respect, dignity, rights, and security of everyone in our city.”
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I bet I can correctly guess what political party he belongs to.

 

[essentialsaltes]

That's already a thing. It's called Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) which allows the ICE to get taxpayer information from the IRS.

From April 7th of this year, hardly a month ago. Yes, this is an example of the changes the Trump Administration is instituting that are causing people to talk about an issue they never talked about before, because it wasn't happening before.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I bet I can correctly guess what political party he belongs to.

Party doesn't matter when DHS is on the prowl, making mistakes left and right.

Huntington Beach being listed as sanctuary city was ‘serious mistake,’ mayor says​

A press release issued by the City of Huntington Beach states that the community’s inclusion on the DHS list of more than 500 sanctuary jurisdictions was a “serious mistake” and “does not reflect the city council’s formally adopted policy.”

“We adopted a formal policy on this,” Huntington Beach Mayor Pat Burns said in the press release, which was issued Friday. “It went before the council, and we unanimously agreed that Huntington Beach is not a sanctuary city.”

Burns elaborated that the DHS’ inclusion of his city in the list is “either a misprint or a serious mistake,” and that federal officials have been notified; he is also “confident the DHS error will be corrected promptly.”

However, as of Saturday morning, Huntington Beach still appeared on the list.

The city’s press release noted that several other jurisdictions across the U.S., including Baltimore, Las Vegas and Shasta County, California, have been misidentified as sanctuary jurisdictions. Mayor Burns said that Santa Ana is the only city within Orange County that has been “publicly identified” as a sanctuary city; however, it was not included in the DHS list.

 

[loveofourlord]

Ice raids and mistakes have existed for decades. There's a nearly 40 year old comedy movie about it called Born in East L.A. "When an L.A. born American citizen is mistaken for a Mexican illegal alien and deported to Mexico, he has to do everything he can to get across the border". In the movie the raid took place in a restaurant as I recall. There's absolutely nothing new about it.

However, if a movie like that came out today, certain people would probably be outraged over it saying stuff like "how can they joke about terrorist gestapo raids?".

yeah, thing is there usd to be this thing called due process, and didn't involve looking like criminals and charging into places.

 

[ozso]

yeah, thing is there usd to be this thing called due process, and didn't involve looking like criminals and charging into places.

Raids like that have taken place in Southern California since at least the 70s.

 

[ozso]

Party doesn't matter when DHS is on the prowl, making mistakes left and right.

Huntington Beach being listed as sanctuary city was ‘serious mistake,’ mayor says​

A press release issued by the City of Huntington Beach states that the community’s inclusion on the DHS list of more than 500 sanctuary jurisdictions was a “serious mistake” and “does not reflect the city council’s formally adopted policy.”

“We adopted a formal policy on this,” Huntington Beach Mayor Pat Burns said in the press release, which was issued Friday. “It went before the council, and we unanimously agreed that Huntington Beach is not a sanctuary city.”

Burns elaborated that the DHS’ inclusion of his city in the list is “either a misprint or a serious mistake,” and that federal officials have been notified; he is also “confident the DHS error will be corrected promptly.”

However, as of Saturday morning, Huntington Beach still appeared on the list.

The city’s press release noted that several other jurisdictions across the U.S., including Baltimore, Las Vegas and Shasta County, California, have been misidentified as sanctuary jurisdictions. Mayor Burns said that Santa Ana is the only city within Orange County that has been “publicly identified” as a sanctuary city; however, it was not included in the DHS list.

Party does matter considering the Ds have gone to war against the Rs over deportation. And when there's war, there's propaganda. Huntington Beach just simply being on a list for the time being isn't that big of a deal. It's like oh noes there's been a clerical error, which means DHS is a terrorist gestapo organization. Manufactured hysteria.

 

[Belk]

Party does matter considering the Ds have gone to war against the Rs over deportation. And when there's war, there's propaganda. Huntington Beach just simply being on a list for the time being isn't that big of a deal. It's like oh noes there's been a clerical error, which means DHS is a terrorist gestapo organization. Manufactured hysteria.

Oh, Whom exactly has gone to war and how has the war been fought?

 

[ozso]

Oh, Whom exactly has gone to war and how has the war been fought?

Democrats and Republicans. Verbally, textually, politically, legislatively.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Oh, Whom exactly has gone to war and how has the war been fought?

This violent rhetoric blah blah blah

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

From the article, ICE didn't find who they were looking for. They arrest 2 people, because they didn't have personal ID. Of course anyone can forget their ID. This is overboard. I'm sure everyone knows that.

 

[Belk]

Democrats and Republicans. Verbally, textually, politically, legislatively.

Wow, that is really vague and sounds a whole lot like less like "war" and more like standard disagreement over policy.

 

[ozso]

Wow, that is really vague and sounds a whole lot like less like "war" and more like standard disagreement over policy.

Ever heard of a war of words? War doesn't always mean tanks and bombs. At war with can simply mean in opposition, which is the way I was using it.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Well, I'm over 50 and still have a memory. I remember the Republican Ronald Reagan giving amnesty.

 

[Goonie]

Well, I'm over 50 and still have a memory. I remember the Republican Ronald Reagan giving amnesty.

Reagan that commie bas....